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Post by Federline! on Aug 29, 2005 15:53:56 GMT -5
Although Christina's recent press release has refuted the ridiculous statements made about Britney, this rivalry will survive as long as both have careers. It's yin and yang, etc.
Christina clearly is superior vocally to Britney...there's no comparison. While Britney can sing (her tone isn't the most pleasing, but that's why God gave us ProTools), Christina actually has an impressive technical voice...I do feel, however, that as the years go by and Britney's star continues to rise higher and higher, Christina's melismatic frenzies get crazier and crazier (as if she is desperate to prove her skills). I recall one review of Xtina's Christmas album, on which she had announced a duet with Etta James that never materialized...it said, if I remember correctly, "after hearing the track, we now know why Ms. James bowed out...with Christina's vocal gymnastics, there wouldn't be enough oxygen left in the booth for another human being."
Despite this obvious difference in vocal ability, Britney manages to remain iconic while Christina does not. This can be chalked up to the talent Britney shares with Madonna: she OWNS every stage she sets foot on. Freeze any frame of her performance footage and look at her face...she's not counting dance steps, she's not trying to keep the electrical tape on her tits, she's certainly not worrying about staying on pitch. In fact, she's not worrying about anything. She's eye fucking the crowd. She's devouring their adoration. She is, simply put, shining.
Watching the two perform side by side at the VMAs, it's clear that Britney sang live. It sounds thunderingly average. When she lip syncs, it's as processed as cheese. Christina came out and threw everything she had a "Like a Virgin," which is a simple song. Technically, she was better. Personally, it felt to me as if she was trying too hard.
Then came the dancing. Britney dances like she breathes--effortlessly, and often times better than her backup dancers. When Madonna put that top hat on Britney's head and little Brit Brit began to spin around, gyrating her hips to the beat for a cheering crowd, it was musical sex magick on a stick. Later on, Brit and Madge did the one-two-one-two hip shake together as Christina made her best attempt, resulting in a performance as graceful as a newly-born foal going through heroin withdrawal. She just jiggled her gangly limbs out there and hoped for the best (which for her was mediocre). There's a reason that her patented dance move in all her videos (including the afforementioned "Dirrty") is dropping her ass to the floor and spreading her legs wide...it's a motion she's comfortable with and has practiced.
You can see the difference in their body types--when Britney is in touring shape, she is a snakelike coil of knotted muscle waiting to shimmy, slide and spin her way across the floor. When Christina is at her peak, she's just a skinny little girl.
Entertainment Weekly said it best when comparing the two: Christina's a good girl trying to be bad while Britney's a bad girl trying to be good. One is just sexier than the other.
Britney may not be the best singer in the history of music, but there's a reason she's sold as many albums as she has. There's a reason people compare her to Madonna. She possesses that certain quality that makes her impossible to ignore when she's performing...and while she may be dumb as a truck off the stage, when she is on it she is hands down our generation's biggest genius.
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Post by Dudie on Aug 29, 2005 16:22:54 GMT -5
I think there's a lot of truth in what you say Federline...whatever... but the fact that Britney is iconoclastic has more to do with the fascination and knowledge we have about her carcrash lifestyle than with anything to do with the music. Christina's private life is just that ,so, in this celebrity culture, the press and ergo jo public consider her to be less interesting which translates into less successful. Less successful in column lines shouldn't mean less talented though in my opinion.
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Post by Federline! on Aug 29, 2005 17:17:46 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Let's take a look at their debut videos, shall we? Britney: Xtina: You see? One is instantly an icon. She knows the importance of style and image from day one, creating a distinct look for each video. Christina didn't 'brand' herself visually until "Dirrty," and it was the jumbled mess of sexual confusion that everyone else has been discussing. Britney may have dressed provocatively, but Christina made a point of equating herself with chaps and assless pants...there is a difference. I think Christina was trying to make a point while Britney never really was...but again, to me she tried to hard. It's the same as her vocals--when people began to notice, she pushed harder and right across the line. It's one thing to say "look at how powerful my sexual identity can be," and quite another to wear fetish gear in a video with all maner of sexual fringe behavior. It was just too much, too soon for her, and frankly it detracted from her talent. That (and Fred Durst) is why people stopped paying attention to her big big voice and started commenting on her big tits and dirrrty cooch. It's true that Britney has spiraled downward into trashiness, and I feel horribly for her. I pray that one day she will realize what a mess her life is and snap back into her pop glamorama. If Christina would tone down her shit a little bit, she could have her day in the sun quite soon. But I am confident that within 2 years Britney will be back in a big way, and despite everyone's protests, I don't think anyone really tires of her.
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Post by toby3000 on Aug 30, 2005 5:26:00 GMT -5
I Christina dresses like a slut out of choice, and atleast there's an honesty to that, whereas Britney lies about being a virgin. Boo her. Anyone who critises Christina's dress sense should take a look at Britters in one of her darling track suits. While Britney might wander around with her hair all sracped back and wearing scabby track suits, at least wehn she makes the effort to look good, she looks good. Whereas Christina always looks shit and cheap. Did anyone see the Redneck Roots thing? I didn't. but I heard they avoided showing either her house or school.
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Post by helen0888 on Aug 30, 2005 6:35:12 GMT -5
I I heard they avoided showing either her house or school. why? because theyre trashy?
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Post by toby3000 on Aug 30, 2005 17:10:47 GMT -5
I I heard they avoided showing either her house or school. why? because theyre trashy? The implication in the review was that it was the opposite....the show was trying to show that she was trailer trash, and that showing her house/school would dispell it completely
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Post by drbastard on Aug 31, 2005 9:32:37 GMT -5
I've been reading the above with great interest and I have to spew my poison bile into the thread again. Christina, I have to give her a point for taking control of her career. Her label wanted a Britney clone and she gave them something a little Dirrtierr. BUT she still isn't as interesting as Britney who has a strange coquettish innocence about her without really needing to resort to discussing her rivals in any great depth. I also recently read a discussion similar to this one on another site between two fans and the pro Xtina contingent were defending thier icon on the basis that her powerful vocals had 'more emotional depth' that Britney''s own voice. Note, Mariah gets away with this often. THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN VOCAL GYMNASTICS AND EMOTION. Technically Xtina is better but Britney wins out overall because she has the whole package and if you keep watching and listening, she may take her career somewhere more interesting than Xtina. Federline Is A Dumb name hit the head on the nail why Britney is better than most of the pop bints we have - she has an eye for iconography and shows up Rachel, Willa, Geri and even Xtina for the watered down witches they really are. Did Xtina marry someone and divorce them on the same night? Nope. Did Xtina scandalise middle America with nothing but a Tinky Winky Teletubby and a bra? Nope. What did Xtina do? Dress down a little and try to appeal to ugly people. Gutter tape her gob at once! why? because theyre trashy? The implication in the review was that it was the opposite....the show was trying to show that she was trailer trash, and that showing her house/school would dispell it completely That documentary really annoyed me. According to that travesty, the greatest crimes Britney committed was daring to eat burgers, put on some weight and come from a 'redneck' area of America. So misinformed it nearly became racist! Actually, I would rather it had went deeper into the fact that Britney had to support her whole family and they had to declare themselves to be bankrupt after The Disney Show (or whatever) was axed but then, it's easier to make her look like a Bumpkin Billionaire isn't it? i just wish someone would explain to her that the "x" in xmas stands for "christ", and therefore her nickname should be "x-ina" NOT "x-tina". as for who is better out of her and britney, try the "mum test" - how many songs by the artists does your mum know? exactly. I know! The whole point of this thread wasn't meant to be a Britney vs Xtina thing, we've seen and read and participated in it all before and it's always the same - but I also feel that most of Christina's problems stem for her envy of Miss Federline. She should get over it and stop directing comments at the poor girl - then hastily retracting it and claiming the press are 'stirring' things up.
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Post by Rage* on Aug 31, 2005 9:34:31 GMT -5
i just wish someone would explain to her that the "x" in xmas stands for "christ", and therefore her nickname should be "x-ina" NOT "x-tina". as for who is better out of her and britney, try the "mum test" - how many songs by Christina Aguilera does your mum know? exactly. although i do like some of Christina's songs, she does whine a bit. but sharing my birthdate with her and Lindsay B*Witched is fun!
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Post by Josh on Aug 31, 2005 15:02:20 GMT -5
i just wish someone would explain to her that the "x" in xmas stands for "christ", and therefore her nickname should be "x-ina" NOT "x-tina". That's annoyed me for ages too.
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Post by Rage* on Sept 1, 2005 11:17:41 GMT -5
i just wish someone would explain to her that the "x" in xmas stands for "christ", and therefore her nickname should be "x-ina" NOT "x-tina". That's annoyed me for ages too. let's make banners and go to her concerts!
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Post by sophiefrombloke on Sept 1, 2005 16:17:49 GMT -5
The 'X' actually stands for 'Cross', surely. 'Charing X' means Charing Cross, not Charing Christ. Although we don't call it Crossmas much. Crosstina. Ha.
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Post by toby3000 on Sept 2, 2005 7:12:24 GMT -5
The 'X' in Xmas in not, as is often assumed, a secularisation of Christmas. It is the Greek symbol for Christ. It's therefore fairly offensive for her to co-opt it, and I'm always surprised lots of American evangelists don't get annoyed about this. But then their knowledge of Christianity is usually fairly scant.
I was recently told by a friend that everyone in the south of america was trailer trash. I floored them by pointing out that this was like saying everyone in the north of england lived in council flats.
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Post by Josh on Sept 2, 2005 19:12:13 GMT -5
That's annoyed me for ages too. let's make banners and go to her concerts! Mmm. I'd love to take a "I Heart Britney" Banner and Badge to a Crosstina concert too. Even if she claims they are friends/not rivals.
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Post by ttoby on Sept 5, 2005 11:10:08 GMT -5
That's annoyed me for ages too. let's make banners and go to her concerts! YES! GOD that always annoyed me. @ Federline Is a Dumb Name All very interesting and perceptive... but: "You see? One is instantly an icon. She knows the importance of style and image from day one, creating a distinct look for each video." What?? I may be wrong, but I thought Britney (at least in the early stages) had absolutely nothing to do with what she spewed out... are you saying Britters is better cos she had a better manager / imagey whatever?
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Post by Josh on Sept 5, 2005 12:27:05 GMT -5
let's make banners and go to her concerts! YES! GOD that always annoyed me. @ Federline Is a Dumb Name All very interesting and perceptive... but: "You see? One is instantly an icon. She knows the importance of style and image from day one, creating a distinct look for each video." What?? I may be wrong, but I thought Britney (at least in the early stages) had absolutely nothing to do with what she spewed out... are you saying Britters is better cos she had a better manager / imagey whatever? Well, Britney did so-say come up with the school uniform idea herself for "Baby one More Time"
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Post by Federline! on Sept 6, 2005 3:24:34 GMT -5
The story goes that Nigel Dick, who directed Britney's first SIX videos, had an extremely weak concept for the ...BOMT video: either Britney in a pink "power ranger' esque spacesuit, or simply her on a giant spinning record (soda poppy).
Britney is, according to all accounts, the one who decided to do a 'high school' video, and also asked to tie her shirt up halfway.
I think it's very telling that the most positive thing people have to say about Sex-tina these days is "She looks so nice now! Remember when she looked like such a cheap, cheap whore?"
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Post by drbastard on Sept 6, 2005 11:01:25 GMT -5
The story goes that Nigel Dick, who directed Britney's first SIX videos, had an extremely weak concept for the ...BOMT video: either Britney in a pink "power ranger' esque spacesuit, or simply her on a giant spinning record (soda poppy). Britney is, according to all accounts, the one who decided to do a 'high school' video, and also asked to tie her shirt up halfway. I think it's very telling that the most positive thing people have to say about Sex-tina these days is "She looks so nice now! Remember when she looked like such a cheap, cheap whore?" One hundred per cent correct. It was Britney who took control of her own career despite being sixteen, it's Britney who masterminded some of her most shocking but iconic imagery. The infamous Teletubby photo. All her idea. Her manager begged the photographer NOT to and Britney agreed....until he left the room and then she ordered the photographer to 'do it quickly'.
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Post by xtina613 on Sept 8, 2005 18:03:27 GMT -5
i was just checking to see if DR.b has eaten his words since christina's recent post on her website which basically said all the tabloid reports about her "comments" were false and that she and britney get along fine. I laughed audibly at this i can't believe u people believed that trash
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Post by diamond doggie bag on Sept 9, 2005 7:52:37 GMT -5
Lets not forget Christina also denied having her boobs done.
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Post by toby3000 on Sept 10, 2005 9:34:32 GMT -5
One hundred per cent correct. It was Britney who took control of her own career despite being sixteen, it's Britney who masterminded some of her most shocking but iconic imagery. The infamous Teletubby photo. All her idea. Her manager begged the photographer NOT to and Britney agreed....until he left the room and then she ordered the photographer to 'do it quickly'. I read somewhere that Britney's been trained to sing 'correctly' but that she added all the 'Mey's' and stuff to mark her voice stand out from all the other girl singers around.
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Post by mikado on Oct 6, 2005 15:06:19 GMT -5
Christina is a tramp! That sketchers add where she's dressed as a police woman and she's benfing over the car is one of the most disgusting ads ever, it's like the front cover of a porno.
Beautiful is a good song, but none of her other songs are anything special. Dirrty is one of the most overrated tracks of all time. I still don't understand how it got to number one, it's a mess
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