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Post by Dee on Jun 18, 2004 13:43:23 GMT -5
It's not so much her music, but the fact she seems to be an extremely humourless little bint.
She constantly slags off people like Britney and Christina, but I'd rather have two people comfortable in admitting they are pop and who get on with the job of being popstars than some tiresome Canadian girl who claims to be punk and other such malarky while clearly being as corporate as the rest of the teen musos.
She also pisses me off because she is sour and miserable half the time, and is utterly pretentious about her guitar and songwriting skills. Skills which are questionable in the very least considering she "co-writes" all the songs and her first few hits were "co-written" by The Matrix. Who work with proper popstars too.
Oh and finally, a recent interview she did with Rolling Stone. She said People saying I can’t sing, but I have no problem with that, because I know that I can. People saying that I can’t write, which pisses the fuck out of me, because I’m a writer. Don’t you fucking dare try to take that from me. and then told the interviewer that she'd written quite a few political songs ("The way I wish that people would just come together. Like, “Why is this planet suffocating?”)
Then she quoted a lyric from a song she'd written about the Washington sniper.
"On my TV there’s a serial killer who’s taken too many lives He shot somebody every day And now he’s still getting away.”
Truly a gifted lyricist. Ahem. I've ranted about the above before but I just can't hold back today.
So... that is why I think Avril Lavigne is poo. End rant.
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Post by elmsyrup on Jun 18, 2004 13:51:35 GMT -5
Making justified claims about genuinely shit people is a bit of a cheat. Where are your ridiculous assertions, Dee, you've forgotten them! Thing is though, one day she'll become a grownup and cringe at her past. Let's hope.
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Post by Dee on Jun 18, 2004 14:00:16 GMT -5
Ooops, silly me. I didn't read the label too closely, my next thread will be completely unjustified and nonsense, with no factual evidence or any reason whatsoever behind it I was thinking the exact same thing re: cringing. Must be weird having your teenage behaviour on display throughout your life to the rest of the world, whereas the rest of us pretty much got to behave like sulky little wankers without much abuse. She's still a fuckhead though. I'm just disappointed Fred Durst's burger-for-a-shag barter attempt went so awry. The two of them would have had humourously pretentious children, though the odds of a birth defect (ie born with it's head up it's arse) would have been astonishingly high.
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Post by PopIdle on Jun 21, 2004 9:59:16 GMT -5
It's for all those reasons that I love her. Well, love might be putting it a bit strongly, but I think it's fantastic having a stroppy teenager sulking around the place.
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Post by ozonearefit on Jun 23, 2004 3:46:34 GMT -5
I like her cause she's not afraid to say how she feels, about anything. She voices her opinions pretty well and I like her music and the fact that she doesn't lip-sync.
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Post by Mike on Jun 23, 2004 9:38:30 GMT -5
I like her cause she's not afraid to say how she feels, about anything. She voices her opinions pretty well and I like her music and the fact that she doesn't lip-sync. I think the fact that she doesn't lip-sync works against her. She's awful live.
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Post by MilkMonitor on Jun 23, 2004 11:22:44 GMT -5
I have an mp3 of her doing Sixpence None The Richer's 'Kiss Me' live and I am sorry to say that it is actually alright and her voice is rather good on it. But wait! Her cover of System of a Down's 'Chop Suey' is absolutely fucking painful, I'll give a link to anybody that wants to hear it.
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Post by Dee on Jun 23, 2004 15:42:15 GMT -5
Ooooh! Me! Me! I'm a glutton for punishment!
Also - has anyone heard her version on Knockin' On Heavens Door? I assume it's attrocious but I don't want to assume too much.
Incidently, I might reiterate that it wasnt so much her music that I hated as opposed to her lack of humour and prodigious pretentiousness.
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Post by max on Jun 24, 2004 13:41:52 GMT -5
I have an mp3 of her doing Sixpence None The Richer's 'Kiss Me' live and I am sorry to say that it is actually alright and her voice is rather good on it. But wait! Her cover of System of a Down's 'Chop Suey' is absolutely fucking painful, I'll give a link to anybody that wants to hear it. could i have a link to the first one ? Just curious. thanks
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Post by MilkMonitor on Jun 24, 2004 15:31:53 GMT -5
You can get 'Kiss Me' here and 'Chop Suey' here. Warning: the last one is really quite painful.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Jun 24, 2004 16:00:32 GMT -5
Surely replace "painful" with "absolutely hilarious".
In her defence her new album is actually really good.
Though that's really the only redeeming thing about her.
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Post by chrisb on Jun 26, 2004 17:08:56 GMT -5
I dislike her. Complicated annoyed me a lot. "What do you guys wanna do today?!", "Take off all your preppy clothes"... "Wanna crash the mall?"... *cringe*
The video to it just shows how up herself she is. It's like she's trying to prove how she's such-a-punk-not-a-silly-little-girl-honest and that annoys me.
Sk8r boi was equally shite. Whilst it's better than Complicated in terms of listening to it, the video still shows her to be up herself.
And yes, it really annoys me how she tries to prove how much of a punk she is when she clearly isn't.
And what the HECK is that "Chop Suey" MP3?! I mean... how can she go on record and say "I don't care if people think I can't sing because I know I can"... has she heard herself?!
She wouldn't get passed the first audition on Pop Idol. How the heck did she get this far? Her latest single is awful too.
Another thing that annoys me about her... three words. "I'm with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeuuooooeueuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-oooooooooooooooooooeee...."
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Post by Bam on Jul 2, 2004 11:33:22 GMT -5
Man, what is Avril Lavigne? Poop, that's what.
I find it so funny that the guys who wrote all her songs also wrote for Britney.
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Post by Dee on Jul 3, 2004 1:09:07 GMT -5
Bam, I know what you mean!
But I don't imagine Avril would have much time for irony (either the proper kind or the Alanis brand)
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Post by gabbygoo on Jul 3, 2004 2:23:11 GMT -5
Man, what is Avril Lavigne? Poop, that's what. I find it so funny that the guys who wrote all her songs also wrote for Britney. I thought she wrote her own. So she not even a good song writer
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Post by Dee on Jul 3, 2004 5:58:37 GMT -5
Yup, that's what I wrote in the original post - she co-writes most of her stuff, and as we all know, co-writing can sometimes involve merely crooning "Oooh yeah baby" after the line you just sang.
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Post by Dudie on Jul 3, 2004 11:39:00 GMT -5
I think the fact that she doesn't lip-sync works against her. She's awful live. Yep, I saw her live and came out with a whole new perspective on miming. I was stuck in a hotel room which had 'the Box ' which I didn't have at home a bit ago. I was strangely transfixed with 'I'm with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!' which came on every 10 minutes until I lost the will to live. You just posting that ChrisB brought it all back and made me shudder. Like Harry Enfield's Kevin you just feel like screaming 'For Christ sake someone give her a shag' until you realise the teenage angst is all totally for effect. 'her prodigious pretentiousness' - perfect.
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Post by Fake on Jul 3, 2004 13:50:16 GMT -5
I really, really dislike Avril Lavigne.
The thing which really put me off her was when she was being interviewed on TOTP Sat quite a while ago (when it was still part of the Saturday Show with Fearne and Simon) by a young girl who had won a competition and was billed up as her "biggest fan" or something, and she was so excited to be meeting her idol.
And then in the interview, Avril didn't look at her once, and kept her head down as she answered all the questions. And i understand that she doesn't like doing press, and she hates the fame side (alledgedly), but to act like that around a fan who was having her dream come true was very, very rude.
And I don't like her.
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Post by Dee on Jul 3, 2004 16:02:05 GMT -5
From memory she was rather sour when she appeared on Australian TV a little while ago. Only cracked a hint of a smile when handed a koala. Personally, I would have handed her an open-palmed slap, but that's just me.
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Post by Ms Pouty McPout Pout on Jul 4, 2004 20:24:26 GMT -5
YES. I HATE Avril Lavigne. She is my least favourite singer on earth. Ten reasons to hate her:
1) She's a fucking hypocrite. Avril said "I don't show my midriff, that's something Britney would do", and then I saw on her some TV show and her midriff was showing. And she called Britney a slut for showing her stomach. I HATE hypocrites!
2) Her songs are so bloody repetitive and boring. I hated Complicated - they played it about a million times, and everybody was singing it. I wanted to throw my stereo out the window. S8ker Boi was even worse (I hate that spelling!), and I couldn't stand I'm With You. Don't Tell Me is horrible too.
3) Her videos are horrendous. Complicated made me laugh though - "wanna go crash the mall?" - I thought you were cool Avril. Don't Tell Me's video is hiliarious too - especiall when she smashes the mirror with her first, like she'd be that strong!
4) She doesn't appreciate the fact she has fans. I've heard reports from ex-Avril fans who said she ignored them at record singings and meetings.
5) She's incredibly ugly (I know this doesn't really count, but I had to put it in). She wears way too much makeup and her hair is stringy and ugly. And she said she doesn't use deoderant or wash her hair much. Yuck!
6) She sounds like a prat in interviews. She's always spouting that she's punk or whatever, but she's plainly not! And she brings up Britney in nearly every interview. They'd be talking about something unrelated and Avril would mention Britney. Does she secretly like her or something?
7) She claims to write her own songs. Sitting down with someone and adding the occasional "Yeah" and "Ooh" doesn't count as songwriting, Avril.
8) She also claims she really plays the guitar on her album and in concert. Strumming a guitar for a few notes isn't playing, Avril! (This sounds like No.7)
9) She looks bloody bored when she performs. On TOTP, she looked like she was half asleep and didn't want to be there. I thought the whole point of being a singer was to SING.
10) Everybody seems to love her, which makes me hate her more.
There. That's my opinion on her. Stupid name, too.
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Post by Bam on Nov 17, 2004 11:34:05 GMT -5
Urgh she's just wrong.
Apparently she's making a movie now. And hanging out on the "LA party scene." She's the biggest hypocrite EVER!!!
Do they even have punks in Canada?
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Post by Tim on Nov 17, 2004 12:01:13 GMT -5
5) She's incredibly ugly (I know this doesn't really count, but I had to put it in). She wears way too much makeup and her hair is stringy and ugly. And she said she doesn't use deoderant or wash her hair much. I'd fuck her.
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Post by Dudie on Nov 17, 2004 12:51:54 GMT -5
Tim! It's difficult to know if you are totally undiscriminating, just desperate or maybe both from this remark. I'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear it though, although she'd be at pains not to show it. Enthusiasm of any sort is so uncool after all. I'd prepare yourself for disdain both before, during and after if I were you.
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Post by Tim on Nov 17, 2004 18:28:43 GMT -5
I'm very descriminating and not desperate. I think she's really pretty. And getting prettier now her skin is clearing up. Girls are great.
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Post by Molly on Nov 18, 2004 3:12:23 GMT -5
Have you seen her without the eyeliner? Without it she's a gimlet-eyed troll.
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Post by gazbo on Nov 18, 2004 10:36:26 GMT -5
Check the photos in this story - it simultaneously demonstrates what a hypocrite she is (re comments about Britney), whilst making it hard to deny fuckability.
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Post by timeforheroes on Nov 25, 2004 14:25:12 GMT -5
Can one of you sexy people re-upload the Chop Suey cover so I can download it?
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Post by Molly on Nov 26, 2004 3:39:46 GMT -5
Can one of you sexy people re-upload the Chop Suey cover so I can download it? Christ, I'd wiped that from my brain. One of the most horrendous things I've ever heard. My favourite bit is the appalled woman in the background going 'What the hell?!' once she realises what's happening.
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