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Jul 30, 2004 4:05:28 GMT -5
Post by Twixy on Jul 30, 2004 4:05:28 GMT -5
I personally couldn't give a flying rat's ass who writes songs, I can't stand them cos they take themselves far far far too seriously. I mean, come on Charlie, if it's "insulting and degreading" to be called a boy band, then why appear in EVERY issue of Smash Hits and TOTP magazines in the poster sections? Sometimes even topless? They've never done a topless shoot. They're against it because "its far too vain" IE -they have minging bodies.
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Jul 30, 2004 4:08:34 GMT -5
Post by MilkMonitor on Jul 30, 2004 4:08:34 GMT -5
Yet again, I have to say what does it matter? Why attack them for their backgrounds? Popstars who come from hardship and struggle all the way to their incredible success are applauded, whilst people still bitch about Charlie going to public school, and basically having an easy ride which thus negates what he has acheived. I went to public school, anyone have a problem with that? No. All I did was point out a mistake from another member who said only one of Busted went to a privately-funded school, and I corrected her as they all did, although Matt had a scholarship. They could have gone to clown school for all I care. And of course the lower-class (Oasis, Mike Skinner, Eminem etc) are given more applause when they become succcessful. What's more impressive, someone who has come from a very lower class lifestyle with little money and a hard life (especially in the case of Eminem) to become rich and successful, or someone who has been privately educated and given the best help money can buy? Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being privileged - I for one would definitely take advantage of it to reach my dream - but those who did not have a chance deserve more credit than those who did. But again, it does not matter. I think Oasis deserve praise for going from pikey Mancunian scallies who lived in a council house to pikey Mancunian scalles who live in mansions but give me A Present For Everyone over Heathen Chemistry any day.
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Jul 30, 2004 4:18:03 GMT -5
Post by Sas on Jul 30, 2004 4:18:03 GMT -5
And in many respects it could have worked against him - if his character was in any way disliked it would have been put down to upper class snobbery. Thats exactly what I was thinking. At the time of the final i remember some newspapers were saying Gareth's father was ONLY a postman, poor thing, trying to make us feel sorry for him. And from this thread, you can see that upper class background can work against you, as some of you seem to be targetting some anger at Busted's background, ooh they can go back to their rich parents etc, but really it doesn't matter at all. I'm not exactly rich but I dont give a shit what background Busted came from. It doesnt affect my opinion of them.
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Jul 30, 2004 4:25:14 GMT -5
Post by Sas on Jul 30, 2004 4:25:14 GMT -5
I'd advise you to actually read what I said. I said: "They think are the most important band since The Beatles". I DID NOT say they thought they were better! Oops! Ok, ok I apoligise, everyone misreads every now and then! But I'm sure they don't think they are the best band since the Beatles. I'm sure they wouldn't think they were better than bands they love such as Blink 182, N'Sync and Deftones etc. (I think they're bands they love, I'm not sure.)
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Jul 30, 2004 4:57:38 GMT -5
Post by Dudie on Jul 30, 2004 4:57:38 GMT -5
And from this thread, you can see that upper class background can work against you, as some of you seem to be targetting some anger at Busted's background, ooh they can go back to their rich parents etc, but really it doesn't matter at all. I'm not exactly rich but I dont give a shit what background Busted came from. It doesnt affect my opinion of them. I agree basically, but coming from a moneyed and a public school background can give you a certain confidence or some would say arrogance which is why I think this thread was started in relation to Busted. If it didn't parents wouldn't cough up to send them there. They are incredibly arrogant about their song-writing, real music bollocks. I've heard them live too and they could neither sing in tune nor play to speak of.
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Jul 30, 2004 5:01:56 GMT -5
Post by Bootie on Jul 30, 2004 5:01:56 GMT -5
They are incredibly arrogant about their song-writing, real music bollocks. I've heard them live too and they could neither sing in tune nor play to speak of. But they can jump in the air in time, and surely that's what counts?
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Busted
Jul 30, 2004 5:12:59 GMT -5
Post by Dudie on Jul 30, 2004 5:12:59 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe they run courses in it and playing air guitar at Eton or wherever they went.
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Jul 30, 2004 5:35:15 GMT -5
Post by Keaty on Jul 30, 2004 5:35:15 GMT -5
I agree basically, but coming from a moneyed and a public school background can give you a certain confidence or some would say arrogance which is why I think this thread was started in relation to Busted. If it didn't parents wouldn't cough up to send them there. They are incredibly arrogant about their song-writing, real music bollocks. I've heard them live too and they could neither sing in tune nor play to speak of. Hmm... I suppose that could be said of some people. But I went to public school and if anything I'm ashamed of it!
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Jul 30, 2004 7:40:29 GMT -5
Post by miumiu on Jul 30, 2004 7:40:29 GMT -5
i don't think it's anything to be ashamed of...
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Busted
Jul 30, 2004 7:48:15 GMT -5
Post by Dudie on Jul 30, 2004 7:48:15 GMT -5
Hmm... I suppose that could be said of some people. But I went to public school and if anything I'm ashamed of it! I don't think it's anything to be ashamed of either. I didn't mean anything personal against all those who went to public school. Hopefully that's not how it came across. I'm sure you're a very nice person.
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Jul 30, 2004 8:09:17 GMT -5
Post by Keaty on Jul 30, 2004 8:09:17 GMT -5
I don't think it's anything to be ashamed of either. I didn't mean anything personal against all those who went to public school. Hopefully that's not how it came across. I'm sure you're a very nice person. No, it's fine, but I'm very wary of people's reactions to it because obviously there's the danger of being tarred with the same brush that actual public school wankers are faced with. I'm nothing like any of them, thankfully, but I did happen to go to public school so I guess I'm a bit embarrassed at the reputation really.
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Jul 30, 2004 11:07:26 GMT -5
Post by miumiu on Jul 30, 2004 11:07:26 GMT -5
I didn't think it was a personal attack, or an attack even, but there is being tainted by association. but i suppose it's like anything, good and bad people.
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Busted
Jul 31, 2004 14:22:14 GMT -5
Post by StarsInMyThighs on Jul 31, 2004 14:22:14 GMT -5
I agree basically, but coming from a moneyed and a public school background can give you a certain confidence or some would say arrogance . Not necessarily. And unless you've actually been to public school, how can you possibly comment or pass judgement on how you come out feeling once you've been there?
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Jul 31, 2004 16:18:19 GMT -5
Post by Keaty on Jul 31, 2004 16:18:19 GMT -5
Not necessarily. And unless you've actually been to public school, how can you possibly comment or pass judgement on how you come out feeling once you've been there? I think the assumption of arrogance is one made by lots of people, and is an obvious generalisation but still valid in view of certain people (it could be said of many who went to my school). I guess I felt embarrassed for having this advantage over other people, although at least I can take comfort in the fact that I utilised my school to its full extent, but some of the people... it killed me to see all these undeserving people there being paid for by their parents to fuck around and eventually get expelled when there are so many others out there who would do good from the sorts of facilities we had access to. Taking the argument back to Busted, I don't believe their arrogance is something that has been born out of public school education; rather OTT adoration from fans and a string of hit singles. It's not hard to see how it happens.
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Busted
Aug 1, 2004 2:41:24 GMT -5
Post by miumiu on Aug 1, 2004 2:41:24 GMT -5
I think the assumption of arrogance is one made by lots of people, and is an obvious generalisation but still valid in view of certain people (it could be said of many who went to my school). I guess I felt embarrassed for having this advantage over other people, although at least I can take comfort in the fact that I utilised my school to its full extent, but some of the people... it killed me to see all these undeserving people there being paid for by their parents to fuck around and eventually get expelled when there are so many others out there who would do good from the sorts of facilities we had access to. Taking the argument back to Busted, I don't believe their arrogance is something that has been born out of public school education; rather OTT adoration from fans and a string of hit singles. It's not hard to see how it happens. i know exactly what you mean. i do think it's hard to understand unless you've been through the system. there is an attitude of arrogance and everyone thinks you don't have to work as hard and everything is given to you on a plate just like at home. but i wouldn't feel embarrassed because in the same way, i got everything i could out of the school and they worked us hard...if you wanted the most, you worked the hardest. and of course there were people who lazed around and still came out ok but there are always going to be people like that. Busted have to work just as hard as any other pop band to survive in the industry. once you're in it, surely you're just the same as everyone else..completely at the mercy of record company and record buyers...
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Busted
Aug 1, 2004 12:08:16 GMT -5
Post by Moll on Aug 1, 2004 12:08:16 GMT -5
no trust me, miu miu is NOT a very nice person. hehe just playin wit u. I got YOUR number.
note to all... i know her, quite well in fact. So this might actually make sense.
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Busted
Aug 1, 2004 13:46:39 GMT -5
Post by StarsInMyThighs on Aug 1, 2004 13:46:39 GMT -5
I think the assumption of arrogance is one made by lots of people, and is an obvious generalisation but still valid in view of certain people (it could be said of many who went to my school). I guess I felt embarrassed for having this advantage over other people, although at least I can take comfort in the fact that I utilised my school to its full extent, but some of the people... it killed me to see all these undeserving people there being paid for by their parents to fuck around and eventually get expelled when there are so many others out there who would do good from the sorts of facilities we had access to. . See this is the thing. It's a generalisation. I go to a comprehensive and there are countless arrogant cocks there, but you know it has nothing to do with money or the type of education they are receiving. It's the way they are. People will fuck around in lessons, or not even turn up to most of them, wasting their chances. I'd say it happens all over. I may be generalising, but hey, if it's good enough for some people..........
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Busted
Aug 1, 2004 15:04:51 GMT -5
Post by Dudie on Aug 1, 2004 15:04:51 GMT -5
They remind me of all the annoying boys at school who didn't have the social skills to talk to girls or anyone apart from their immediate friends, but who thought they were the pinnicle of cool and grown-up as they giggled and swapped their mums catalogues to look at the underwear models and slagged off the ugly girls. Thunderbirds is their first song in ages I like and I only like the Thunderbirds theme tune bit and they can't take credit for it. 3AM is rubbish and Charlie cannot sing, but he thinks he can and they let him. I feel like I've been thinking this for ever. They are at no.1 now. What the fuck is going on?
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Busted
Aug 2, 2004 9:47:55 GMT -5
Post by Scruffy on Aug 2, 2004 9:47:55 GMT -5
I feel like I've been thinking this for ever. They are at no.1 now. What the fuck is going on? I know. And Mania are at 29. Can you say pop injustice?
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Busted
Aug 2, 2004 9:55:04 GMT -5
Post by PushTheBuena on Aug 2, 2004 9:55:04 GMT -5
I like Matt. I don't know why. He seems like he'd be a good laugh and a fun person to have a chat in a pub with. Charlie, however, seems like an insufferable cunt. I WISH I'd been there to see his face when one of his favourite bands slated him on stage. Too funny. I bet he cried. I am, however, completely indifferent to The Other One, who looks about eight. I only wish that Bruce Springsteen story had been true, it would have made him ten times better than his current non-entityness.
Busted the band, however, are just crap. I never got why they were so successful with the singles from their first album, which were all total shite. Year 3000 is still one of the worst songs ever ever ever. However, Crashed the Wedding was very good, and made me worry that I would become a sly fan. Thankfully, they reverted to being shit again, with Air Hostess, 3am, and now this Thunderbirds wankery.
I can't shake the feeling that, were they a US band and actually had a more Blink182 style mini mosher image and fanbase, they would be PJ pariahs.
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Busted
Aug 3, 2004 1:15:32 GMT -5
Post by popangel555 on Aug 3, 2004 1:15:32 GMT -5
I think Busted also make the mistake of releasing the wrong songs. They have much better tracks on the albums that they haven't released, namely ones that Charlie doesn't sing on. On the version of Lola that they do with McFly the minute Charlie sings you can tell it's him as he's the one who sings flat.
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Aug 3, 2004 7:01:46 GMT -5
Post by Keaty on Aug 3, 2004 7:01:46 GMT -5
See, I would say Charlie is head and shoulders above the other two. James and Matt have whiny, American-inflected paper thin shrieks while Charlie has a raspy, deep and sexy interesting voice. Still doesn't stunt my intense dislike of him though.
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Busted
Aug 3, 2004 14:30:08 GMT -5
Post by StarsInMyThighs on Aug 3, 2004 14:30:08 GMT -5
Charlie, however, seems like an insufferable cunt. I WISH I'd been there to see his face when one of his favourite bands slated him on stage. Too funny. I bet he cried. Ooh...who slated him onstage? When? And where?
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Busted
Aug 4, 2004 3:38:14 GMT -5
Post by hotzappa11 on Aug 4, 2004 3:38:14 GMT -5
Aereogramme, because some kids saw Charlie there and then started asking the band to play that "song about year 3000 which makes no fcking sense", and the signer ripped into him on stage.
the singer than apologized after the show when Charlie wanted his CD signed. all in all, the singer was trying to be down with the "kids".
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Busted
Aug 4, 2004 14:09:06 GMT -5
Post by StarsInMyThighs on Aug 4, 2004 14:09:06 GMT -5
Aaagggh, I bloody hate that; when people slate The Busted just so they seem credible/"cool"/whatever the fuck they want to call it.
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Busted
Aug 4, 2004 14:53:23 GMT -5
Post by hotzappa11 on Aug 4, 2004 14:53:23 GMT -5
same with MTV2 in the case, they have a text hour and there's always people wasting their money saying "y r dey tryin 2 be rawk" and all this shit. MTV2 even has an advert with the the words scrawled across the screen....
"Charlie from Busted, we know your watching".
pfffft.
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Aug 4, 2004 22:34:24 GMT -5
Post by Ms Pouty McPout Pout on Aug 4, 2004 22:34:24 GMT -5
I'm confused.
Ok, you know how you said that Charlie went to a public school? Is that a posh school? Because here in New Zealand I go to a public school, but it's not posh or expensive - it's what a normal school is. We have private schools which are the posh expensive thousands of dollars a year ones. What do you call normal schools then if public schools are the posh ones? Sorry to go off topic but I'm really confused now....
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Aug 5, 2004 0:54:37 GMT -5
Post by Moll on Aug 5, 2004 0:54:37 GMT -5
yeah im english and i never got that. i thought it made much more sense for public schools to be the ones open for anyone. the schools you dont pay for are state schools. and expensive ones public...dont ask why. i hope i have helped you understand the exciting world of english schools.
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Aug 5, 2004 7:23:44 GMT -5
Post by Keaty on Aug 5, 2004 7:23:44 GMT -5
I think public and private are essentially the same thing - although public schools are more elite?
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Aug 5, 2004 8:35:15 GMT -5
Post by Moll on Aug 5, 2004 8:35:15 GMT -5
yeah i think thats about right. As a member of the public school establishment. i can sincerly say it rocks..or can i? no to put it bluntly (sp?)
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