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Post by PushTheBuena on Jul 18, 2004 15:16:03 GMT -5
Why should she keep it to herself? Personally, anyone who decides to stop listening to someone's music because they've bitched about another artist they listen to is a bit of a cunt. My favourite artists can bitch about whoever the fuck they want, as long as they keep producing good music I don't care. Exactly. I don't even get why it's such a big deal for her to slag off Andre anyway. You can hardly blame someone who's struggled for years being a bit pissed off about being denied their first number one by some cunt who should by all rights be long gone from the Top 40 by now. Particularly when the re-release of Mysterious Girl was so clearly a tacky, cynical publicity stunt mobilised by tiresome studenty irony, as opposed to any actual interest in the music. Honestly, I don't even think she comes across as that much of a bitch anyway. Compare her to someone like Usher and her supposed 'arrogance' is put sharply into context. She has talent, personality and acres of star quality, and therefore fully justifies any ego. What would we prefer anyway- someone like Jamelia who can be a bit prickly and spiky and says what's on her mind, or someone like Rachel Stevens, who is so uninteresting in interviews as to be barely human?
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Post by hmmmmm on Jul 18, 2004 17:00:01 GMT -5
As much as I dislike her attitude, I listened to Thank You last night and it's bloody ace.
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Post by Twixy on Jul 19, 2004 1:37:33 GMT -5
I don't see what the big fuss was about the Peter Andrea comment - everyone knew he was shit anyway, but because she is "famous" it's created into a whole different context. I don't understand why we can say things, and they'll be agreed with, or disagreed with, but when someone in the pubic eye slags someone off, or prasies them, it's treated as a bitchy comment or arselicking, rather than an opinion.
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Post by Control on Jul 19, 2004 23:58:06 GMT -5
I don't see what the big fuss was about the Peter Andrea comment - everyone knew he was shit anyway, but because she is "famous" it's created into a whole different context. I don't understand why we can say things, and they'll be agreed with, or disagreed with, but when someone in the pubic eye slags someone off, or prasies them, it's treated as a bitchy comment or arselicking, rather than an opinion. If someone in real life used the pretentious phrase "the real music heads" I'd think they were a prick too.
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Post by Twixy on Jul 20, 2004 3:58:20 GMT -5
So, one wrong comment, and she's a prick. Okay, I'll use the critera for next time.
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Post by miumiu on Jul 29, 2004 14:34:37 GMT -5
The reason Jamelia is so far up herself is that everyone is fawning over her and her 'brilliance' but clearly everyone has forgotten that for a long time she couldn't buy a hit...besides that one with Beenie Man and looked how well he turned out. Must be a nice change having people like her all the time, who wouldn't lap it up. The woman drives me insane, the faux muso attitude, 'chris martin/the darkness' everyone loves me. *seethes* suck it lady, and quit with the ballgowns on stage.
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Post by leanonmepart3 on Jul 29, 2004 22:54:11 GMT -5
Reading all this does make me hate her.I just hate Stars who thinks they're all that and go an extra mile.I really hate See it in a boys eye,it makes me want to throw up.Sorry if some of you like it but her voice is crap in the song.
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Post by miumiu on Jul 30, 2004 14:10:23 GMT -5
oh but chris martin wrote it and was just *dying* to work with her
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Post by Twixy on Jul 31, 2004 2:18:44 GMT -5
I think she's believing her own hype - and why shouldn't she? She's worked for four years to get it, and personally, I don't think it'll last very long.
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Post by JJ on Aug 4, 2004 4:11:07 GMT -5
See It In A Boy's Eyes is not very good and was only released because Chris Martin co-wrote it. I don't see what all the fuss is about Jamelia - Superstar was good, but other singles like Bout and Thank You are average R&B.
As for the Peter Andre comment, Mysterious Girl is still a good song in my eyes and deserved to beat her to #1. I don't think that she is arrogant in the slightest - what she said about "the musos" was probably true, but most people who I would call "musos" don't even like her, so there were no "musos" to think she was the real #1 in the first place.
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Post by happycamper20 on Aug 6, 2004 7:21:48 GMT -5
I have to say I disagree with the personal criticism of Jamelia. I've met her several times through friends who went to school with her etc. (Being a fellow Brummie) and she is one of the most grounded individuals I've met, and certainly the nicest "famous person". Yeah, so she's a little outspoken but why shouldn't she have an opinion? What she has said is no worse than what you lot are saying about her now, and about others, but because she's famous she can't have an opinion? And arrogant, yes, she is. But why not? She's good and she knows it, where's the problem? She's worked bloody hard for her success and knows she deserves it, so let her have her time and enjoy it. And she bought me champagne once so obviously I love her.
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Post by RD on Aug 6, 2004 7:52:56 GMT -5
She's just a pretentious little karoke singer who would be nowhere now if it weren't for some poxy TV show!!
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Post by MilkMonitor on Aug 6, 2004 7:58:05 GMT -5
She's just a pretentious little karoke singer who would be nowhere now if it weren't for some poxy TV show!! What TV show is that then?
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Post by flufff on Aug 6, 2004 8:15:17 GMT -5
Popworld.
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Post by MilkMonitor on Aug 6, 2004 8:17:39 GMT -5
Right so Popworld, with its absolutely huge viewing figures*, has made Jamelia so popular, and not because 'Superstar', 'Thank You' and 'See It In A Boy's Eyes' are actually very, very good songs.
* It should obviously be the highest rated show on TV.
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Post by flufff on Aug 6, 2004 8:51:18 GMT -5
It should indeed.
I think Jamelia made it for the right reasons (which can include singing on a tv show because that's quite a good thing if you want to be a singer), but if she's not careful she's going to throw it all away for all the wrong reasons. Singers should be allowed to have opinions on things, and so far she's stuck to safe (and predictable) targets such as Peter Andre, Sam and Mark, Hearsay etc. Taking swipes as Britney is easy enough, if more dangerous, but Britney and Beyonce is taking a big risk.
I'll be honest I've found her arrogance annoying for some time now, and so every new comment is influenced by my existing prejudice, but I am noticing more and more people who like her music becoming tired with her. Thank-you wasn't very good anyway. It's a very, very poor man's Beautiful and it didn't deserve to get any higher than number five. She was lucky.
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Post by PushTheBuena on Aug 6, 2004 8:58:05 GMT -5
Thank-you wasn't very good anyway. It's a very, very poor man's Beautiful and it didn't deserve to get any higher than number five. Huh? Surely Thank You and FIGHTER are the obvious comparisons? You broke my world, made me strong, thank you Messed with my dreams, made me strong, than you" "Made me learn a little bit faster Made my skin a little bit thicker It makes me that much smarter So thanks for making me a fighter" I like them both, by the way. Fighter is the screamy, spitting emotive side of the emotion, Thank You the more resigned, optimistic, dignified side.
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Post by flufff on Aug 6, 2004 12:33:53 GMT -5
Yes, I meant that. It's been one of those days. Digging, melodically it's a little bit like beautiful, but not as good (leans on shovel). Lyrically it's Fighter Mark 2, but not as good. It's not a bad song, quite a decent song, just not as good as she thinks it was.
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Post by Dudie on Aug 6, 2004 12:44:16 GMT -5
While I agree she's turning into an archetypal twunt (don't try saying that after you've had a few) I really liked Thank You. It was the best one out of the three. Superstar was a great song but her version was only an OK cover in my opinion. See It in a Boys Eyes is weak weak weak.
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Post by Twixy on Aug 7, 2004 7:43:29 GMT -5
I think I don't get annoyed because 1) I love her (duh) and 2) She has a very simular sense of humour to me - it's very sarcastic, which is what I like. She really stood out to me when I went to see her live, and she was amazingly funny, and very captivating. I really do love her.
I do think her time is up though - she has to prove herself with this next album, and if she gets big hits, and releases a great album, then she will be one to last.
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Post by gabbygoo on Aug 7, 2004 9:19:03 GMT -5
Why should she keep it to herself? Personally, anyone who decides to stop listening to someone's music because they've bitched about another artist they listen to is a bit of a cunt. My favourite artists can bitch about whoever the fuck they want, as long as they keep producing good music I don't care. I haven't stopped listening to her music because of her comments. I am not so much of a cunt (nice word) I just wouldn't buy her stuff and personally I have to like the artist as well as their music. That doesn't mean that they have to be all goody two shoes. hell I am from the beatles/stones era when they were considered bad boys. But none of them were up their own arse the way she is I would forgive her if her comments were tongue in cheek but they not she really believes she best thing since sliced bread. You probably too young to remember John Lennon saying the beatles were more popular than Jesus. They lost masses of fans thro that comment. Whether they like it or not people in the public eye have to be careful what they say and do
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Post by Ringlet101 on Oct 3, 2004 15:17:03 GMT -5
jamelia sucks.. period
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Post by Tim on Oct 3, 2004 18:01:58 GMT -5
Is there a term for that, like snowballing?
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Post by Danni on Oct 17, 2004 12:16:27 GMT -5
Jamelia...meh.I mean she's a good singer but she isn't as beautiful as she thinks/some people make out.
I saw her at cd:uk twice earlier on this year and both days she was just generally snotty,looking at the audience members like we were shite.
On one occassion she was wearing this dress which was so short you could actually see up it...and it was almost as if she wanted people looking.
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Post by Shezz on Oct 24, 2004 12:39:40 GMT -5
I also have a huge disliking for her.
- shes big headed - is always floating around in big yellow dresses - or teeny skirts with no knickers on *shudders* - is an awful singer, she just warbles through her songs - rarely sings live - her cover of "Stop" has so many key changes its unreal - her annoying big pink lip *grrrr*
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Post by Shezz on Oct 24, 2004 12:46:03 GMT -5
oh yeah and the way everyone thinks shes great and sucks up to her.
"British Beyonce" my arse. Beyonce have something Jamelia can only dream of - talent.
But oh no, being compared to Beyonce just wasnt good enough for her royal highness........
well it was something along those lines i cant really remember
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Post by Twiggy on Oct 24, 2004 14:21:35 GMT -5
She's covered one of my favourite songs, and even though it essentially sounds exactly the same, she's managed to strip out every bit of that gut busting anguish that Sam Brown had. I'm not happy.
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Post by Molly on Oct 25, 2004 11:00:12 GMT -5
She's like a lot of artists I love in that she can release (or simply record and never release as a single) some amazing songs (Off Da Endz, Antidote) and some atrociously bad ones (Thankyou, SIIABE). I love her lots, but she's certainly not flawless. I have less of a problem with her slagging off other singers than I do with , say, Kelly Osborne saying 'they're only famous because they're on TV.' She shouldn't have covered Stop though.
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Post by Twixy on Oct 27, 2004 15:25:54 GMT -5
I don't think Jamelia really haves the time to reherse to perform live on the TV shows she does, but when I saw her live, she was absolutley amazing.
She has a live DVD out on monday too.
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Post by AugustMoon on Oct 28, 2004 16:37:13 GMT -5
- her cover of "Stop" has so many key changes its unreal I was looking forward to a radical rework of Sam Brown's original after having read this. I heard immediatly that this wasn't the case, but after listening to it again and again I started to wonder if it's even possible for it to have key changes. Like somebody called Stewart Tolhurst wrote for some reason in newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett: "Not *that* many pop songs have real key changes in them. Some have pseduo-key changes to give the middle 8 a lift (for example) but it is very rare to *actually* change key. When you do get key changes in pop music is it usually pretty much a key switch rather than a key change - you don't get key modulations like you do in Classical music." So do you, Shezz, think there are key changes in places like the intro here? (Between the first and second line?) Em; Bm, D Em; Bm, D Bm; F#m, A Bm. Maybe that's a "key switch", rather? In the process of searching for this I found that the "up a key shift for the last chorus" that's often so annoying in pop is called "Truck Driver's Gear Change": www.gearchange.org/muso_intro.aspYou live and learn... As for Jamelia. She was on Frank Skinner a few minutes ago, and was pleasant enough. I can't work myself up about artists' characters. If they're flawed they're flawed. If they're not they're not.
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