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Post by drbastard on Oct 9, 2004 5:37:44 GMT -5
To you all she's obvously something approaching a legend but to me she's just a ginger haired oompa loompa that sold her soul to become a producer's puppet. Don't get me wrong, I liked her early nineties Beverley Hills 90210 stuff. I have her greatest hits and all but recently she's become a whoreslave for 19, a part of the lazy industry.
"Oh, Jentina has flopped horribly. I know let's get Cathy Dennis in!"
It's nice to see that worked. Not. For now Jentina is getting dumped on her ass while Cathy is moving on to SCrubbers 8 or whatever.
It's such a lazy mentality. She has to be stopped, along with Linda Perry and their evil ilk.
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Post by Electrobix on Oct 9, 2004 7:25:27 GMT -5
But she is a genius! Look, you've made her look all wistful and contemplative now.
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Post by Tim on Oct 9, 2004 8:04:45 GMT -5
The second Jentina single was ready to go before the first came out so your theory is full of holes. And people writing songs for other people is what the entire pop music industry was founded on - how is that lazy? None of your post makes any sense. Could you not channel your anger toward saving wales or banning the bomb or something?
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Post by popwilleatitself on Oct 9, 2004 8:33:51 GMT -5
Here Here! All hail Tim!
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Post by fee on Oct 9, 2004 19:27:59 GMT -5
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT?
Sorry, I realise I'm just giving Dr Bastard the attention he craves.
(Although I do have a slight problem with her gingerness...)
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Post by drbastard on Oct 10, 2004 3:55:36 GMT -5
The second Jentina single was ready to go before the first came out so your theory is full of holes. And people writing songs for other people is what the entire pop music industry was founded on - how is that lazy? You are correct but why always rely on Cathy Dennis? She's famous for writing other people's songs now rather than a singer in her own right. I also questioned how Jentina was meant to be the 'brightest musical talent in the UK' comparable with Missy Elliot (The Sun) when she needs five other people to write Bad Ass Strippa with her. SIX people wrote THAT? Have you listened to the lyrics? You could write that. We all could.
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Post by drbastard on Oct 10, 2004 4:01:14 GMT -5
None of your post makes any sense. Could you not channel your anger toward saving wales or banning the bomb or something? Fuck whales and banning the bomb. I don't even like wales or whales.
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Post by Tim on Oct 10, 2004 5:55:21 GMT -5
Or whales even. Or did I mean Wales? Or wails? What a stupid language.
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Post by PoshGurung on Oct 10, 2004 5:58:28 GMT -5
None of your post makes any sense. Could you not channel your anger toward saving wales or banning the bomb or something? Or how overrated Jamelia is.
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Post by audrey potnoodlehorne on Oct 11, 2004 4:32:21 GMT -5
Linda Perry is worse.
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Post by drbastard on Oct 11, 2004 6:29:44 GMT -5
I so agree with you. Beautiful is utterly overrated.
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Post by TenochHartnett on Oct 11, 2004 17:47:06 GMT -5
Cathy Dennis Linda Perry Greg Alexander The Matrix
...still, compared to (P.) Diddy, they're all geniouses!
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Post by jester1436 on Oct 12, 2004 1:16:25 GMT -5
SIX people wrote THAT? Have you listened to the lyrics? You could write that. We all could. Doesn't it use a sample from another song? Thus adding names to the list of songwriters for the track.
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Post by flufff on Oct 12, 2004 3:32:05 GMT -5
*sharp intake of breath*
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Post by veryjammy on Oct 12, 2004 5:30:49 GMT -5
I think the quality of her songs can be a bit hit and miss, I don't like French Kisses for example. But with out her we'd have no CGYOOMH or Toxic. Imagine a world without those songs, without Kylie becoming huge again, without Britney being an air hostess. It just doesn't bear thinking about
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Post by undisco_me on Oct 12, 2004 9:31:09 GMT -5
I think the quality of her songs can be a bit hit and miss, I don't like French Kisses for example. But with out her we'd have no CGYOOMH or Toxic. Imagine a world without those songs, without Kylie becoming huge again, without Britney being an air hostess. It just doesn't bear thinking about I'm really enjoying the fact that her songs can sound very different. When you burn them onto the one CD you can't think anything else than "genius". 'French Kisses' is an aquired taste, but doesn't deserve to be massive or anything. I personally think it completely rips off Janet's 'All NIght (Don't Stop)' - same with the video. EDIT: What I mean is that on their own they might mean very little to you, but put together you can see the bigger picture, the talent and diversity. Glad I got that out of my system!
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Post by veryjammy on Oct 13, 2004 4:05:46 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying the fact that her songs can sound very different. When you burn them onto the one CD you can't think anything else than "genius". 'French Kisses' is an aquired taste, but doesn't deserve to be massive or anything. I personally think it completely rips off Janet's 'All NIght (Don't Stop)' - same with the video. EDIT: What I mean is that on their own they might mean very little to you, but put together you can see the bigger picture, the talent and diversity. Glad I got that out of my system! I was actually being genuine with my post, I think she's a really talented songwriter. Just remembered she wrote Sweet Dreams as well, which makes her even more of a genius. What I was trying to say was that, with CGYOOMH and Toxic especially, she's created some defining pop moments of the 21st century (and both happen to have fantastic videos as well). I do think she's churned out a bit of crud occasionally, but when she gets it right everyone knows about it
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Post by drbastard on Oct 13, 2004 9:17:06 GMT -5
I will admit Toxic is fabulous. Although the only Sweet Dreams I love is the Eurthmics one. The cover by Miss Kittin is fab too.
I have always found it strange how Rachel's tawdry sounding pop songs got praise from ming mongs. I could wade in a pool of her so-called talent and emerge one hundred per cent dry.
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Post by neonknight on Oct 16, 2004 3:55:58 GMT -5
Cathy Dennis is a fucking genius. From her first days in pop to now- she has pretty much written excellent songs. Have you checked out her first solo album? I still love it. Everyone now and agin writes shit songs, so give the ginger girl a break!
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Post by drbastard on Oct 16, 2004 5:51:12 GMT -5
I've already forgiven her for the whole Jentina travesty. You can't make miracles out of mediocre material I say.
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