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Post by drbastard on Dec 22, 2004 7:44:40 GMT -5
I never actually purchased the Scissor Sisters album, I must be one of the only ones. I am thankful though because they're releasing all their songs off that damn album. I could own most of it buying their shitty singles.
That goes for Jentina too. She's going to release all her singles from her album because nobody is buying them, so what is the point in her releasing a fucking album? Actually Girls Aloud done that too. I would rather have a few singles released so I can have a whole album to listen to without fear of too many singles syndrome.
NOTE: Jamelia is a pain in the arse for that too.
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Post by klee on Dec 22, 2004 8:10:23 GMT -5
And there was me thinking it was the record company rather than the band doing the releasing.
They're just trying to milk the album for all it's worth before the band finally get to go back in the studio and record a new album.
How about we start a thread called 'Market Force Economics'? That should cover it.
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Post by fee on Dec 22, 2004 8:28:45 GMT -5
I just wish they'd change the voiceover on the advert for the album. I'm bored of shouting at Jo Whiley (actually I never get bored of shouting at Jo Whiley, but still) when she says "and the new single, Mary."
IT'S NOT THE FUCKING NEW SINGLE ANY MORE, STUPID BITCH.
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Post by Annette on Dec 22, 2004 11:22:30 GMT -5
/me snaps on latex gloves, throws Boy Butter out the window and makes way towards Dr. Bastard
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Post by PushTheBuena on Dec 22, 2004 12:25:42 GMT -5
Filthy/Gorgeous and Mary NEEDED releasing though. Not one of their singles has been a bad choice, though Laura took it's time growing on me, and Take Your Mama is played out. I wouldn't mind them releasing Return To Oz with a crazy video. With Fairuza Balk as Mombi!! That would be genius. And It Can't Come Quickly Enough. And Lovers In The Backseat. Hell, the album is so amazing that I don't mind them milking it for all it's worth.
Also, I don't understand what you're trying to say about Jentina.
And Girls Aloud releasing four (well, three really) singles before the album was genius and undoubtedly contributed to the build-up/big sales. It was a very clever tactic.
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Post by flufff on Dec 23, 2004 7:51:02 GMT -5
I just wish they'd change the voiceover on the advert for the album. I'm bored of shouting at Jo Whiley (actually I never get bored of shouting at Jo Whiley, but still) when she says "and the new single, Mary." It can't possibly be worse than the Mariella Fostropp (sp) one for Il Divo where the script reads as if they discovered the cure for cancer! |
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Post by trollte on Dec 23, 2004 8:14:21 GMT -5
It was very important that Filthy/Gorgeous was a single. I'm looking forward to dancing to it in a club near me.
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Post by drbastard on Dec 23, 2004 8:27:24 GMT -5
It just annoys me that after buying an album, said artists go and release all the singles off it! Five singles from an album is too much. Sometimes though lower singles ARE better; in the case of Geri's pop abomination Scream If You Wanna Go Faster, she only got three singles off that as it flopped like a thirty two year man's cock. Also, I don't understand what you're trying to say about Jentina. If nobody buys her singles why the fuck should her labum be released? Who is going to buy that? Actually, I hate her to death and can never pass up the oppurtunity to trash her. But it's like spitting on a helpless baby, that's how easy it is smeariong Jentina's name. I'd rather ingest anthrax than hear her rapping. |
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Post by marknyc on Dec 23, 2004 12:08:31 GMT -5
Why the fuck do bands release singles to promote their album? Are they mad? Do they actually want to promote their work and make money doing their fucking jobs?
These songs should be heard by no one after I buy the album so I can protect my investment in hipness.
Britney did this with her Greatest Hits album. I hate her!
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Post by Mike on Dec 23, 2004 14:25:33 GMT -5
she only got three singles off that as it flopped like a thirty two year man's cock. I think we'll all bow to your superior expertise on that topic. |
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Post by PushTheBuena on Dec 23, 2004 15:05:42 GMT -5
I think we'll all bow to your superior expertise on that topic. Genius. |
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Post by undisco_me on Dec 23, 2004 19:53:03 GMT -5
I just wish they'd change the voiceover on the advert for the album. I'm bored of shouting at Jo Whiley (actually I never get bored of shouting at Jo Whiley, but still) when she says "and the new single, Mary." IT'S NOT THE FUCKING NEW SINGLE ANY MORE, STUPID BITCH. that last post. But I think with 'Filthy/Gorgeous' Scissor Sisters are finally the band that they were hyped up to be. I am not saying that 'Laura' or 'Mary' in particular were bad songs at all; they just were not exciting, edgy or uber fashion like you would expect from their image and reputation. 'It Can't Come Quickly Enough' is more to my taste, but I think it is too late to release that one now. Plus it has it's place on the Party Monster OST, and the closing credits to great effect. |
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Post by drbastard on Dec 24, 2004 4:24:22 GMT -5
I think we'll all bow to your superior expertise on that topic. Why should you when you have your own personal experience to draw upon. I'm on superb bitchy form this week. 'It Can't Come Quickly Enough' is more to my taste, but I think it is too late to release that one now. Plus it has it's place on the Party Monster OST, and the closing credits to great effect. The Party Monster soundtrack is wonderful. Why the fuck do bands release singles to promote their album? Are they mad? Do they actually want to promote their work and make money doing their fucking jobs. Oh come on! There's a distinct difference between promotion and raping something dry. Scissor Sisters crossed that line when they released Mary. Also let me add I think they're taking the 'this is the Scissor Sisters Greatest Hits collection' review too far. Enough already. Make a new fucking album. I mean how much promo do they need? The album has been selling bucketloads all year. I doubt it will next year when another token band comes along and sell loads just like Scissor Sisters and The Darkness before them. |
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Post by Electrobix on Dec 24, 2004 7:21:34 GMT -5
The Scissor Sisters are genius.
Everybody should hear their songs, especially if they haven't got the album.
But if they haven't got the album they're just daft.
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Post by Ann on Dec 24, 2004 12:15:55 GMT -5
Dr Bastard, stop talking.
The Scissor Sisters want to go back in the studio and start recording again but as they are contractually obliged they must tour the album. They must also release singles off the album. They would be stupid not to ride their wave of populatiry. As you've pointed out, people are fickle, so they must make themselves remembered while they tour other places. Had you read an interview with them you would understand quite how much they want to go back to the studio. Babydaddy has said that if they aren't allowed time to record again soon he will split up the band. It's all record company stuff.
I've seen them a LOT this year and I can't wait for them to record a new album and tour with that again. They already have new songs which they have been doing on tour and they are brilliant.
I don't understand why you're so pissed off about it, you haven't even bought the album. This album hasn't even been out a year yet. They will have released 5 of 13 possible singles. That leaves 8 songs that people who don't have the album won't have heard. I can do the math.
I would say that, with the release of Filthy/Gorgeous, the singles have been a good representation of the album. I've been to shows and had to listen to people on tubes after shows who just didn't seem to get Scissor Sisters. It was all the people who heard Take Your Mama on Radio 2. It's brilliant that they have such wide appeal, but Filthy/Gorgeous is the Scissor Sisters I see on stage and that has to be mirrored in their releases.
Ps. Your superb bitchy form is shit.
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Post by jester1436 on Dec 24, 2004 12:44:41 GMT -5
Why should you when you have your own personal experience to draw upon. I'm on superb bitchy form this week. Oh Lordy! It's the "No I'm not you are routine" generally mastered by young children who play in sandboxes and on swings. Superb bitchy form indeed, what a crock. Singles are there to push the album, it makes perfect sense to stretch the hit album as much as they can, as no one is guaranteed a sophmore success, and you most certainly will be moaning about them and how glad you are they failed if the second album didn't chart well. You're a joke. |
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Post by Tim on Dec 24, 2004 14:02:27 GMT -5
And you do understand that if your record company wants to release a single then they just can? They don't need the band's permission. But the band are contractually obliged to do everything in their power to promote said single. So that means appearing in videos and not saying "Don't buy our record because we'd rather not have anymore hits at the moment". You do realise that right?
It's record companies who do these things. Because (and here's the mad part) they like, no, need to make as much money from their investment as possible. It's quite simple, really.
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Post by Tim on Dec 24, 2004 14:35:56 GMT -5
If nobody buys her singles why the fuck should her labum be released? A girl let me do that once. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2004 15:30:25 GMT -5
Had Scissor Sisters released 'Filthy/Gorgeous' first, they would have been pigeonholed as gay electro very early on. This single gives them a chance to get a song that very much typifies them as band members - sleaze, humour, brilliant choruses - and yet, this late into the album's life, won't put off the Radio 2 audience who have boosted both their sales and the likelihood of the record company giving them a chance to make another great album.
And like you say, you don't even own the album. How do you know they're "raping it dry" when, for all you know, the rest of it could be better? You say they crossed the line of exploitation with 'Mary', but that was only the fourth single. Most albums have fourth singles. That's not crossing a line, that's just normal. And since Geri released only three from her second album, does that mean she deserves more respect than Scissor Sisters?
Your statements are all blind, bitter stabs in the dark. You miss every time. Turn the light on. Your arms are full of cuts.
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Post by Mike on Dec 26, 2004 14:38:54 GMT -5
Ann, Tim and Marzi, you make some excellent points. Nonetheless, there is no way round the fact that YOU ALL SMELL.
I'm on amazing bitchy form this week. Can someone get me a plaster?
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Post by Annette on Dec 26, 2004 20:26:49 GMT -5
10 reasons for Scissor Sisters to release another single. 1. Del in drag, waving around anal beads on the end of a drill.  2. Jake tied to a bed, being snogged by his boyfriend.  3. Jake being ridden like a pony.  4. Jake being spanked like a baby, while sucking on a bottle.  5. Jake snogging a woman. Yes, a woman!!!  6. Paddy in drag.  7. Giant hair!  8. Hula hoop!  9. Tits!  10. More boy on boy action.  |
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Post by Spinny 3000 on Dec 27, 2004 18:58:22 GMT -5
Mmm yummy! Especially seeing Jake being snogged by a man, worth getting the single just for that!
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Post by James on Dec 29, 2004 5:50:05 GMT -5
Their album is so ace, I think practically every song could do well if released. If they did one more single from it I'd be torn between wanting it to be 'Tits On The Radio', 'It Can't Come Quickly Enough or 'Return To Oz'.
And anyone that doesn't have their album and their DVD (We Are Scissor Sisters And So Are You) is crazy. So there.
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Post by Scruffy on Jan 1, 2005 14:27:50 GMT -5
I love Filthy/Gorgeous and they're very funny and offbeat etc but I'm sorry everything single wise from Take Your Mama up to Mary has left me very very cold. I don't see the fuss over them at all. I'm interested in the album but my dislike of some of the singles is putting me off.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 3, 2005 10:46:32 GMT -5
Scruffy you are right.
The rest, you are wrong. It's true coz I said so. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't slamming The Sisters, I just find that all their album is being released as singles to be dull and they don't need to do it. They've sold loads.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 3, 2005 10:48:10 GMT -5
Ann, Tim and Marzi, you make some excellent points. Nonetheless, there is no way round the fact that YOU ALL SMELL. I'm on amazing bitchy form this week. Can someone get me a plaster? Can someone get you better insults. Too much Jentina has rotted your brain and your dick. |
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Post by Scruffy on Jan 3, 2005 15:20:59 GMT -5
Scruffy you are right. The rest, you are wrong. It's true coz I said so. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't slamming The Sisters, I just find that all their album is being released as singles to be dull and they don't need to do it. They've sold loads. It's nice of you to tell me I'm right. Funnily enough I bought the album today. So far I think it's alright, I've warmed to Comfortably Numb and Take Your Mama much more. It's not a bad album and I think I'll grow to like it more but personally I found GA's 2nd album much more exciting.. |
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Post by klee on Jan 5, 2005 5:35:05 GMT -5
Scruffy you are right. The rest, you are wrong. It's true coz I said so. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't slamming The Sisters, I just find that all their album is being released as singles to be dull and they don't need to do it. They've sold loads. Yes, but you're forgetting that the counter-argument is that whether or not it's boring is gloriously beside the point. The Scissor Sisters signed a record deal. In this deal it will have been specified that they are contractually obliged to promote their records: this involves releasing singles, promoting those singles and touring. Their record company, being profit-centred organisation, will naturally want to make as much money as it can from the album. Therefore, seeing a cash cow (officially the biggest selling album of 2004 in the Uk, no less) it is going to milk it. Whether the band agree with this position is immaterial. Frankly they might be dog tired of touring, fed up of playing the same songs over and over again and chronically homesick, but the fact is that for the sake of their careers they can't do anything different. You (Dr Bastard) are a writer. Currently you have a one book deal. What would happen, however, if you signed a major two or three book deal with a big advance? You too would be contractually obliged to tour every single Waterstone's, Borders and W H frigging Smith's in the country signing books and giving readings if your publisher's marketing dept demanded it. And you'd do it to, because it would be your chance to do what you've always wanted to do. You'd do it even if it meant spending months away from home with no one but a ditsy PR for company, stuck in Travelodge after Travelodge and unable to get a single sentence written. |
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Post by Scruffy on Jan 5, 2005 16:19:32 GMT -5
Excellent point Klee*, personally I think they got it just right with the singles from this album in how they all raised the ablum's profile but didn't feel like they were overdoing it. Although why Mary was chosen over It Can't Come Quickly Enough puzzles me.
*GENIUS avatar by the way.
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Post by nickyt on Jan 5, 2005 20:12:46 GMT -5
I've no problem with them releasing singles for as long as they want, but, as Mr Popjustice says elsewhere on the site, I think it will soon be revealed that the emperor has no clothes.
I was quite excited by them before I heard the album, but my hatred of 1970s Billy Joel dirges was a big barrier. They have a degree of personality and seem a likeable bunch but the songs are painfully cringeworthy (Take Your so-called Momma), themes from a dodgy travelling fairground (Laura), rip offs of the aforementioned alcho (Mary) or passable disco fare (Comfortably Numb / Filthy Gorgeous). The previous comparison with The Darkness is very apt as both are OK but the hype and fawning surrounding them is laughable.
Take Your Momma belongs on a particularly excruciating Jools Holland jam session. Most of the singles chart positions have reflected the quality of the songs, but spurred on by clueless agenda setters from The Observer to Neil Sean, the public have somehow bought the album to file in their "must-have" album of the year cabinet alongside The Streets.
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