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Post by Mike on Jan 6, 2005 13:26:44 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't slamming The Sisters Anyone fancy a road trip through the holes in Dr Bastard's argument? Jump on the truck!
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Post by drbastard on Jan 7, 2005 9:55:10 GMT -5
Actually, you're the mad one. I am making a valid point (which was also made by a reviewer on Teletext after me so I'm not totally without merit) that The Scissor Sisters should stop releasing their singles from their album. I could be pedantic and modify it to 'their record company should stop releasing their singles' but you see, I have no time for frivolity unless the need takes me. Why do they need to rape their album dry? Nobody has anwered my frigging question properly without trying to look cool. It's the most popular album of the year and that's official. So why? I know I'm right, by the way. Also, attempting to score cheap petty victories by turning this thread into a Dr Bastard Bashing contest makes you look rather childish. There is no need for it. I mean really...you are adults on a message board slagging off someone because he dislikes Jentina/Rachel Davros/Westlife/Charlie/Scissor Sisters whatever. I think you should really calm down Anyone fancy a road trip through the holes in Dr Bastard's argument? Jump on the truck! Oh please, that's not a truck, that's your mother crouching down and scrubbing her kitchen lino.
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Post by Electrobix on Jan 7, 2005 20:22:31 GMT -5
Why do they need to rape their album dry? Nobody has anwered my frigging question properly without trying to look cool. It's the most popular album of the year and that's official. So why? I know I'm right, by the way. Except you're not. So it's the best selling album of last year. If one of your books had made £1 million and your publishers or whoever said, 'Right, if you whore yourself around Waterstones stores over the country and read more segments from the book for a bit longer, you can make another £250,000 easy' would you say 'Oh, no thanks, I've already got my million, any more would be greedy'? As was said before, record companies are there to make profit. While there is still interest in the band and the album they're going to keep promoting it by releasing singles, therefore making a few more people buy it, therefore raising their profit. They're gonna stop just because they've sold more than anyone else in the last year.
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Post by Spinny 3000 on Jan 8, 2005 5:50:37 GMT -5
Oh please, that's not a truck, that's your mother crouching down and scrubbing her kitchen lino. Was this really neccessary? Anyway, this single looks set to enter in the top 5 and the album looks set to climb back to number 1. End Of Topic.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 8, 2005 6:17:44 GMT -5
Was this really neccessary? Anyway, this single looks set to enter in the top 5 and the album looks set to climb back to number 1. End Of Topic. Yes. Considering the nastiness I've taken (like a gentleman or a prostitute) from some Jentina fans here then yes. I won't tolerate anyone insulting me. Insult my fave popstars or whatever but don't make it personal because I can bite back and I will.
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Post by flum on Jan 8, 2005 9:05:33 GMT -5
Insult my fave popstars or whatever but don't make it personal because I can bite back and I will. Oh please, that's not a truck, that's your mother crouching down and scrubbing her kitchen lino. Can I get a lift on your truck, thisisnotatest? I've found more holes to drive through.
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Post by passionoia on Jan 8, 2005 9:59:22 GMT -5
Can I get a lift on your truck, thisisnotatest? I've found more holes to drive through. How is that a hole? thisisnotatest started insulting dr bastard and true to his word he bit back. The only hole I can see is the way he was the one who was insulted first and then when he came back everyone jumped on him as if he was in the wrong. I might not agree with dr b and disapprove of some of his comments but from what I've seen he's doesn't insult and attack people on the board therefore he should be afforded the same. He might be a bit out there and extreme and a bit of a character but that doesn't give people the excuse to treat him any different from anyone else who posts here. I don't know how long he's been here and who else he's slagged off but from what I'vee seen his vicous attacks on Rachel Stevens and Geri Halliwell have been tolerated and in some respects supported and therefore you can't start complaining and acting as if it's different when he does the same to someone you like.
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Post by flum on Jan 8, 2005 12:26:33 GMT -5
How is that a hole? thisisnotatest started insulting dr bastard and true to his word he bit back. Because that's not biting back. It's acting like a sulky 12 year old who's been sent to bed early.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 8, 2005 13:28:33 GMT -5
Because that's not biting back. It's acting like a sulky 12 year old who's been sent to bed early. Go back and re-read the thread and don't be so petulant. If you don't like what I have to say...ignore me. Don't be so stupid, I deserve good rivals.
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Post by passionoia on Jan 8, 2005 13:29:27 GMT -5
Because that's not biting back. It's acting like a sulky 12 year old who's been sent to bed early. Childish it might be but it's still biting back and maybe it was a bit uncalled for but don't pretend thisisnotatest is any better. It probably is better to ignore it and turn the other cheek but you're still in no place to start getting arsy about someone reacting back when you're the twelve year old who provoked it in the first place.
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Post by radio diffusion on Jan 9, 2005 5:43:08 GMT -5
Hmm. As much as the "contractually obliged" argument makes perfectly logical sense, shouldn't we then be saying that Ashlee Simpson isn't really that shit because having an album out meant that she was contractually obliged to promote it on shows such as SNL, for example. Not her fault then, really, 'cause I'm sure if she had the choice she'd rather her album sold in tiny numbers and she could spend her Saturday nights with her feet up instead. Oh, and poor Rachel Stevens, contractually obliged to release a single as bad as 'More More More'.
So, yeah, you have a point.
Problem is, most people don't know the ins and outs of industry politics and legalities, and far less people care. Unfortnately enough for the Scissor Sisters, the album is being "raped dry" (thanks for that perfectly graphic illustration Dr Bastard) by their label, and as much as it might be out of their control they are the public face of Scissor Sisters Singles LTD and therefore the rightful recipients of any backlash against the now wearisome saturation.
A fifth single from the biggest selling album of the year being released in the new year lull really is pillaging every last drop of cash from our pockets.
The shit comes with the sales, that's how it goes. It's all fair criticism in my opinion, and I'd count myself as a fan.
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Post by Annette on Jan 9, 2005 9:31:54 GMT -5
It was always the plan to release all these singles. They never even dreamed they'd have the best selling album of the year, or the amount of success they have, so the singles aren't being released to cash in on their success. Having a first album described as a "greatest hits" is more of a curse than anything, because of the pressure it puts on the artist for the second album.
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Post by DamitaHo on Jan 11, 2005 11:35:22 GMT -5
This is fucking piss funny to read! The Scissors Rock & if your gonna slag them off for releasing 5 singles why don't you slag off Jacko, Madonna, Diana Ross, The Spices etc. I think Jacko must have released the most singles from an album with 10 planned from Dangerous (although one cancelled) but still 9 released & 9 from Bad.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 13, 2005 10:50:10 GMT -5
This is fucking piss funny to read! The Scissors Rock & if your gonna slag them off for releasing 5 singles why don't you slag off Jacko, Madonna, Diana Ross, The Spices etc. I think Jacko must have released the most singles from an album with 10 planned from Dangerous (although one cancelled) but still 9 released & 9 from Bad. Because I'm slagging off The Scissor Sisters. All those other people released those records ages ago so I don't care. I'd be really pedantic if I started slagging off Wacko for Bad, which I do hate anyway, but don't get me started. The Scissor Sisters are the crap end of Hi-Nrg. They're too safe and boring...to G.A.Y. for me to take them seriously. But that's my opinion, the important point is that they have released too many singles. Singles are there to promote an album, theirs is an album that needs no promotion. It's the best seller of the year for God sake.
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Post by Storm on Jan 13, 2005 11:00:50 GMT -5
Because I'm slagging off The Scissor Sisters. All those other people released those records ages ago so I don't care. I'd be really pedantic if I started slagging off Wacko for Bad, which I do hate anyway, but don't get me started. The Scissor Sisters are the crap end of Hi-Nrg. They're too safe and boring...to G.A.Y. for me to take them seriously. But that's my opinion, the important point is that they have released too many singles. Singles are there to promote an album, theirs is an album that needs no promotion. It's the best seller of the year for God sake. But that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, simply beacuse the album has climbed back to number one, buoyed by this track being released as a single. So, therefore it did 'need' this extra promotion did it not? And before you attack me, I am not a Scissor Sisters fan at all.
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Post by Electrobix on Jan 13, 2005 14:06:41 GMT -5
If you actually listened to the album, you would know that Comfortably Numb and Filthy/Gorgeous are the only songs that could be described loosely as 'Hi NRG'. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't slamming The Sisters Right.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 15, 2005 6:43:16 GMT -5
If you actually listened to the album, you would know that Comfortably Numb and Filthy/Gorgeous are the only songs that could be described loosely as 'Hi NRG'. Right. OK so I have a contradictory personality and I love and I hate you.
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Post by drbastard on Jan 15, 2005 6:43:59 GMT -5
If you actually listened to the album I literally have by hearing all the singles. How many other tracks will they release off it now?
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Post by Rage* on Jan 18, 2005 8:54:36 GMT -5
but youre meant to release at least 5 songs off an album!
it used to be that you'd release 2 singles, then an album, then another couple off it while the group made the next one.
now people seem to tjhink its ok to make an album with like 2 "real" songs on it. its not fair!
i salute the sisters!
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Post by Electrobix on Jan 18, 2005 15:54:50 GMT -5
I literally have by hearing all the singles. No, you haven't. Five singles off a 13-track album. That's eight songs you haven't heard, all of them very different. (Surely the differences between the five singles proves that their songs are not similar in any way). So you haven't 'literally' heard the whole album. I have only heard two of Fightstar's songs, yet I would not profess to having heard their entire five-track EP.
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Post by betterthanthis16 on Jan 22, 2005 7:54:48 GMT -5
I originally did not understand the hype about Scissor Sisters and I hated Take Your Mama... Then I obtained a copy (literally) of the album because I didn't want to pay money for it, presuming it was going to be shit. How wrong was I? It's fucking amazing! I love them now. Lovers in the Backseat and It Can't Come Quickly Enough have to be released, in my opinion. And I loved Laura and Mary, I now love Take Your Mama, and I always loved Filthy/Gorgeous. An amazing album!
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Post by David on Jan 26, 2005 10:21:00 GMT -5
The Scissor Sisters have released a total of five singles out of a possible fourteen which all were good enough to be singles.
They're not ripping their fans off by releasing a new album every five minutes. This demonstrates this is a credible band who isnt just in it for the money and knows what decent music is and how to go about letting the world hear it.
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Post by veryjammy on Jan 26, 2005 14:55:38 GMT -5
Five singles would be milking it off a lesser album (four is normally about optimum in my opinion) but the diversity and sheer quality of the album means they could get away with releasing even more (though they won't). Can't Come Quickly Enough is divine, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly what the lyrics are about, I have a few ideas but it's a very ambiguous song. Unless that is a pun in the title....
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Post by James on Jan 27, 2005 1:02:57 GMT -5
Can't Come Quickly Enough is divine, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly what the lyrics are about, I have a few ideas but it's a very ambiguous song. Unless that is a pun in the title.... 'Can't Come Quickly Enough' was inspired by 'Love Comes Quickly' by the Pet Shop Boys.
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Post by joey elijah on Jan 29, 2005 21:26:41 GMT -5
without meaning to alienate myself from your affections, i have to say i'm begining to find the scissor sisters a little tedious... Why it seems to be gospel to like them and thius not slag their 'genius' off is beyond me. I know great songs when i hear them, and 'take your mama' is brilliant as is'laura' and 'mary' and 'tits on the radio', but i think the video to filthy/gorgeous has flipped it for me... i just find that video so contrived, and yearns to art-housely controversial.
but hey, i don't didlike them i just wish they'd fuck off for a few months and come up wwith something new.
Or work with Pete Burns.
I've always preffered fischerspooner, really.
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Post by squidgy on Jan 30, 2005 7:15:35 GMT -5
Ive nothin against scissor sisters but theres better music out but Filthy/gorgeous kicks ass
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