Rooster........arghhhh!

[StarsInMyThighs]

Hello all. I realise I'll probably get some shit for this, but hey ho, that's what the freedom of speech'll do for ya.

I have an intense dislike for Rooster.
The lead singer, Nick whatshisface....he bugs the fuck out of me. All that crotch grabbing, waving of the hand and arm movements....you're in a pop/rock group mate, you ain't freaking Eminem. There's just no need for it. And it's not as if it only happens on a few occasions; it's all the goddamn time, in both of their videos. I want to rip it off and beat him upside his head with it.

He also seems a bit of a pretentious arse. They seem to take themselves a bit too seriously, and have slagged Busted off on several occasions also.
The Busted slating does not automatically require that they are placed in the Clowns And Idiots section, that would be ridiculous. But they're not exactly hardcore rock themselves, and they probably know that a number of Busted fans will latch onto them now they've split. It seems like they are jumping/were jumping on the bandwagon to make themselves seem more credible.

And on Popworld last week., the other one...is his name Luke? My God, what a gorm. Does he even have a personality?

The fact that Radio1 have bumped them up onto their 'A' list also makes me want to spit.
And seriously, who calls themselves after a farmyard animal?..

There you go. I'm sure I'll think of more reasons but at the moment I am too blinded by hatred.

[Lucy]

StarsInMyThighs said:

The lead singer, Nick whatshisface....he bugs the fuck out of me. All that crotch grabbing, waving of the hand and arm movements....you're in a pop/rock group mate, you ain't freaking Eminem. There's just no need for it. And it's not as if it only happens on a few occasions; it's all the goddamn time, in both of their videos. I want to rip it off and beat him upside his head with it.

Yes! I mentioned this on one of the other boards - his shaky arm/hand business just looks odd. I can't stand it.

[frightened and aroused]

Yes they do take themselves rather seriously - the usual 'we make real music, not pop music' routine which doesn't fool anyone. I don't dislike them musically - I've only heard their two singles, and there's nothing in them to which I'd object (except to point out that they're essentially pop songs, no matter what they protest).

I have heard that they have been discourteous towards Busted. Does anyone know what exactly they said? I would hope that it's something slightly less ignorant than the crass drivel spouted by the Manics.

Nick... hmm. He isn't unattractive, and yet I don't fancy him in the slightest. I wonder if he appeals to the sort of (misguided) people who found Simmo sexy? Same sort of nice, well-educated but 'I'm really quite grungey and seriously into music' superior demeanour. Nick has an English degree, apparently. I don't really know why I mention it.

[StarsInMyThighs]

frightened said:

Yes they do take themselves rather seriously - the usual 'we make real music, not pop music' routine which doesn't fool anyone. I don't dislike them musically - I've only heard their two singles, and there's nothing in them to which I'd object (except to point out that they're essentially pop songs, no matter what they protest).

What is the problem with being pop? I don't get it. As The Willis said himself in AoB, "at the end of the day,it does stand for popular music."

[LuckyStar]

"Real" musicians would be ashamed of being lumped with fucking Rooster.

Nick should exist to merely look pretty, not sing and not particularly speak.

Bridgey xxx

[frightened and aroused]

StarsInMyThighs said:

And seriously, who calls themselves after a farmyard animal?

Apparently...

They decided on the name Rooster after Nick won £250 on a horse called Rooster Booster

Well isn't that rock n roll?

Says Nick:

"Without wanting to sound whiny, it's quite hard work at the moment. There are times when tempers get frayed, but we're all big enough to apologise for being an idiot and understand that actually what were doing is all right really."

he also says:

"We're enjoying every minute. Well, not every minute, but we're out there, our music's out there and we're out there playing live. The venues are getting bigger and better and so are the crowds. We're having a blast. Nothing to complain about, certainly."

Maybe I'm just an irritable cunt, but I can already feel the hatred welling within me. Mmm.

[frightened and aroused]

StarsInMyThighs said:

What is the problem with being pop? I don't get it. As The Willis said himself in AoB, "at the end of the day,it does stand for popular music."

Shame Javine didn't know that on The Weakest Link... I presume it was filmed before she was dropped, but it is quite telling that she was not aware that pop = popular.

But back to Rooster... Yes, what the fuck is wrong with being pop? They're hardly Richard fucking Wagner.

[Jen]

Nick said about Busted "I went to my nieces birthday party and they're all going mad for Busted. Who am I to tell them the music's shit?"
He's entitled to think Busted are shit. Busted didn't exactly keep their opinions quiet on people. And whilst they seemed happy to be a pop band, I don't see how their objections to being called a boyband are any different to Rooster's objections to be called pop. I have the Rooster album, and although there are songs with a more commercially poppy edge, I don't think they are much of a pop band personally.
I love Busted and I love Rooster. It would be nice if the bands I liked all liked each other, but hey ho.

[Lucy]

I really don't like Nick - and it's not just because of his Busted slagging, but he just comes across as a bit of a moron in general. Those quotes you posted f & a just clarify it.

Also I agree, he isn't unattractive, but he's not fanciable either. What's the point of that?

[Boombox]

I had written a lenghty post about this , but then got logged out, as work got in the way of more important things like posting on here- hurrumph!

In a nutshell ( because i can't be bothered to write it out again) :

1) Can't understand why the comments 'f and a' posted are so offensive.

2) I have seem them live and they are more a rock band than anything else.

3) Whilst they claim to not be pop, I don't think they intend to be the new Gun N Roses either. Their influences are 70's AOR rock bands, so you're not going to get anything ground breaking or heavy rock.

4) Nick is a pretty boy and in my opinion 'fit' . If you have a pretty boy in a band, you will never be taken seriously as a rock band. No matter how hard you try- Much like Busted non?

5) Busted are no more, so i do not wish to speak ill of the dead, but Matt seemed to think Busted Green Day part 2 , not a pop- rock / boyband. As Jen commented , why is that any different to Roosters comments about not wanting to be seen as pop?

[Jade]

I do actually like Roosters's music, their album is actually quite good, I do think they take themselves far too seriously. I put Rooster's album on in front of my friend and she asked me why I was playing V. So, yeah very rock, so rock in fact they sound similar to V. To me the album sounds like a pop album, and as far as i'm concerned they have the same credibility as Busted, but Busted weren't stupid enough to think they were rock.

Although it seems most people are thinking they're rock. They're playing all the venues that you wouldn't expect a pop band to play. For example, they're going to Birmingham Academy, a place where the likes of Busted would be shot dead. I don't understand how people are taking them seriously as a pop band.

[HAM]

i myself actually do like Rooster aswell their music is gr8 and their lyrics r wkd if u actaully sit and listen 2 them which it loks like none of u haters have done

ne way and just 2 let u all no they aint named afta a farm yard animal who eva finks they r their actually named afta a race horse rooster booster who nick won £300 ponds on at kempton races so um yea gat ya facts rite first ppl

y make comments about bands u dont like im not b funni but u could really upset sum1 and well just cuz rooster mentioned busted a few times hey ure bound 2 meet sum1 in life u dont like

and well it did actually quite annoy me how many of u r dissin a band u aint taken time 2 study and actaully listen 2 grrrrrrrrrrr @ u all

ne way dont wanna sound 2 bitchy 2 ya all cuz i dont wanna hate u but i just fink itz wrong how u all makin comment abot a band u dont no

if u got ne problems with ne fing i ave said feel free 2 add me on msn but dont exspect me 2 talk 2 u if ure just ganna diss Rooster

and 4 a fact their all wkd guyz their all so nice (which u would no if u actually meet them) and yes they all have wkd personalitys (which u would no if u meet them)

so yea um i dont like ure attitude on this and just fink u all have a pount that u may not like a band but no need 2 diss them as much as u do

thanks thats all i got 2 say 4 now

[chickenfoot]

i disagree

i bought the album on monday and can honestly say its not a pop album. one thing that distinguishes them from pop bands like busted (R.I.P) is luke, their guitarist. that man is amazing from the singles his talent on the guitar just isnt shown on the singles they've released so far but on the album some of the solos are just mind blowing and ive heard that hes even more amazing live.
next nick, hes a charasmatic and talented frontman with talent, he has an excellent voice and the songs he writes are really good.
people who compare them to busted havent seen them live and haven't heard the album until you have dont bother judging
they arent heavy rock there not trying to be, they are trying to bring comercial stadium rock back and the album is doing a good job of tht.
and as for saying oh well nicks not good looking or whatever, what does it matter, thought it was about the music personally.

[Lucy]

I like their singles. I can dislike Nick if I want.

Why are people getting so arsey about this?

[HAM]

u dont have 2 like the band 2 like their music i fink this is where ppl r gettin confused

[Shane]

HAM said:

u dont have 2 like the band 2 like their music i fink this is where ppl r gettin confused

Things are much easier for me. I hate both the band and their brand of dreary middle-of-the-road-wannabe-rock-bollocks.

And HAM, all your posts are very painful to read. This isn't a mobile phone.

[StarsInMyThighs]

HAM said:

grrrrrrrrrrr @ u all

*cowers* Well, that sure told me. I shan't be messing with you in the future.

[frightened and aroused]

HAM said:

i myself actually do like Rooster aswell their music is gr8 and their lyrics r wkd if u actaully sit and listen 2 them which it loks like none of u haters have done

It would be a terrible shame if your account were cancelled as a result of your failure to read the rules re mongrel jibberish (txt spk).

[chickenfoot]

i still think lots fo you need to see them live before you judge them

especially those who saw busted as 'rock'

[Lucy]

Who said Busted were anything other than perfect pop?

[StarsInMyThighs]

chickenfoot said:

i still think lots fo you need to see them live before you judge them

especially those who saw busted as 'rock'

Do you see anyone on this board saying that Busted were ever rock? Because if you do, then you have better eyesight than I can ever dream of.

Anyway, this was never a Rooster v Busted thread; admittedly it did bug me that they slagged off my favourite act, but if you read my post I stated that this did not earn them their place in the Clowns section. It was one of a number of reasons, mainly that I don't like the band as people (even though I've never met them, before HAM jumps in, but hey, that's never stopped her/him...)

[Jen]

Lucy said:

I like their singles. I can dislike Nick if I want.

Why are people getting so arsey about this?

With the exclusion of our text speaking friend, no one is getting arsey Lucy, people are just disagreeing with you and putting their opinions across.
Jade- No offence to your friend, but she might want her ears cleaned out. As much as I like V, there is little to no comparison between the two, especially not musically.

[Lucy]

Jen said:

With the exclusion of our text speaking friend, no one is getting arsey Lucy, people are just disagreeing with you and putting their opinions across.

I was referring to her, just in a general sense.

[AugustMoon]

chickenfoot said:

... Luke, their guitarist. That man is amazing. ... His talent on the guitar just isn't shown on the singles they've released so far, but on the album some of the solos are just mind blowing, and I've heard that he's even more amazing live.

I was thinking about him. If there's one thing I like about Staring at the Sun it's that the guitar solo ends so soon. He's got a flow there that many guitarists would want to go along with, for minutes and minutes. No doubt for hours during the excessive 70s. So I like that restraint. But what you say about "even more amazing live" makes me a bit worried. Maybe he's really self-indulgent in concert? I hope not.

I kind of understand StarsInMyThighs if this band is getting on her nerves now. I was happy about them to start with, but they feel duller and duller now. But I still have hopes for them. Maybe I'd like their album.

Nick. Does he make anybody else think about Paul Rodgers? And Rooster about Bad Company? You know - not aspiring for too much, but being good and funky enough.

(Sorry for messing up your punctuation, ChickenFoot. I needed it to see what I was replying to.)

[Jen]

AugustMoon said:

I was thinking about him. If there's one thing I like about Staring at the Sun it's that the guitar solo ends so soon. He's got a flow there that many guitarists would want to go along with, for minutes and minutes. No doubt for hours during the excessive 70s. So I like that restraint. But what you say about "even more amazing live" makes me a bit worried. Maybe he's really self-indulgent in concert? I hope not.

From the album they are all of a similar length, so it may just be that it sounds so much better live. I'll let you know.

I was happy about them to start with, but they feel duller and duller now. But I still have hopes for them. Maybe I'd like their album.

I think you would. It's certainly not a dull record by any means. I haven't been able to stop listening to it since I got it on Monday.

[audrey potnoodlehorne]

'Come Get Some' is the kind of preposterous pomp Bon Jovi would have used as an album filler on a bad day in 1988. However, I do love the way that the chorus explodes in a macho rawk fashion. This is the kind of pastiche The Darkness dream of pulling off, but they're not funny enough.

[frightened and aroused]

Audrey said:

'Come Get Some' is the kind of preposterous pomp Bon Jovi would have used as an album filler on a bad day in 1988. However, I do love the way that the chorus explodes in a macho rawk fashion. This is the kind of pastiche The Darkness dream of pulling off, but they're not funny enough.

The Darkness... yes they are way beyond Rooster in nauseating preposterousness. Rooster are postmodern geniuses by comparison, even though they probably don't know it.

[Electrobix]

Boombox said:

but Matt seemed to think Busted Green Day part 2 , not a pop- rock / boyband.

Green Day are pop-rock (punk-pop if you're pedantic).

Rooster, especially Nick, are pretentious morons. Come Get Some was alright but Staring At The Sun is boring.

Jen - as you say on this thread, people are entitled to their opinions. Don't you think it's a bit pompous and incredibly arrogant of Nick to tell a bunch of six year olds (albeit not face to face, but via the media) that their music taste is shit? If some jumped up student with Jon Bon Jovi pretentions tried to tell me my music taste was crap I'd be bloody livid.

Rooster are like Walkers Sensations Four Cheese and Red Onion crisps. They're marketed as something very cool and 'above the rest' but they're actually just bog standard cheese and onion crisps in a different packaging.

[Jen]

Milk said:

Jen - as you say on this thread, people are entitled to their opinions. Don't you think it's a bit pompous and incredibly arrogant of Nick to tell a bunch of six year olds (albeit not face to face, but via the media) that their music taste is shit? If some jumped up student with Jon Bon Jovi pretentions tried to tell me my music taste was crap I'd be bloody livid.

He wasn't attacking their taste, he was saying he thinks Busted's music is shit. Which he has every right to say- just as you have every right to say that you don't like Rooster on this thread. If what he said is attacking their taste, then surely what you have said on this thread is attacking mine, and the other Rooster fans taste?

[Electrobix]

Jen said:

He wasn't attacking their taste, he was saying he thinks Busted's music is shit. Which he has every right to say- just as you have every right to say that you don't like Rooster on this thread. If what he said is attacking their taste, then surely what you have said on this thread is attacking mine, and the other Rooster fans taste?

No...I haven't said their music is crap. I don't think it's all that great but my point is I would not tell anyone their music taste is shit but high and mighty Nick did. Not not just that, he told a bunch of six year olds.

He does have every right to say Busted's music is shit but when he goes on about his band making 'real' music it comes across as him bigging up his own band at the expense of another. Constantly calling other bands shit and constantly telling people your own music is better to listen to than anyone elses makes him seem like a prick, as is anyone who says 'pop is fake, rock is real'.

It's not just that, he seems completely oblivious to the fact that a lot of his fans are Busted fans too. Well done Nick, you clever boy. Someone needs to slap him and show him that his fanbase is barely any different to Busted's.