The British Public Are Fucking Awful (An Appeal)

[Kirkland]

Not content with having one turgid ballad at number one, the public have the cheek to place a similarly vile song at number two, a vile song penned by an irrelevant group of dinosaurs whose contributions to popular culture include a few witty interviews in the NME and not much else. Worse, now that the Pussycat Dolls are at number one again, the lazy journalists of the land will rise up and make more Spice Girl comparisons that they don’t actually deserve. So you do think The Pussycat Dolls are the ‘new Spice Girls’ then? Well I would suggest you listen to ‘2 Become 1’ and then compare it to the relentless syrup drenched mess that is ‘Stickwitu’ and then tell me if you honestly believe The Dolls (an apt title really considering they all resemble Barbie in her heroin chic early nineties period) are better than the Spice Girls.

Please don’t mistake this post to be the ranting of a Spice Girls maniac. I just want to see justice done for pop music and The Pussycat Dolls are so utterly lazy it makes me die inside when I hear them.

But fear not. There is a supernova of hope on the horizon for today marks the release of the best British girl pop album of the year bar none…. Chemistry! It’s vivacious, inventive and if you don’t dance to Biology then you aren’t normal. It’s absolutely brilliant and proves if anything that manufactured pop can give a bloody nose to any forms of ‘real music’.

Let’s just hope the British public buy it over other dross. This is PopJustice, so I know you all have a copy already.

[joey elijah]

wow.

Girl Power rally!!

i don't think they're teh new spice girls.. but i'm biased given i am a HUGE spice girls fan. Many things set the spice girls aside from others, and apart from the music, it was their personality. They were 'real' people and they didn't give a fuck! These faux R'n'B person-less-rich-and-brilliant-than-me groups are.... clichés... wrappeed up in being 'image' over substance... before someone hollars (see what i did there?!) that the spice girls were 'all' image, too... THINK. And even when their image became more of 'who' they were, they still had a stack of pop*tastic songs that people could relate to. .. okay, 'spice up your life' ... but it's an ANTHEM! The appeal of the Spice Girls went beyond how little they wore in their latest video.

ANyway, isn't it the murdoch press//american press calling them the 'new' spice girls? That doesn't take long to work out why.....

[andersneilsen]

I find it interesting that people still discuss the Spice Girls. They were huge, and there is nothing wrong with the Pussy Cat Dolls aspiring to be the next Spice Girls, although I do wish them the best of luck.

"Wannabe" went to #1 for 7 weeks, "Say You'll Be There" sold close to 1,000,000 copies in the UK alone and "2 Become 1" shifted 700,000+ copies in two weeks (thank you to Spice Girls Discography - www.spicediscography.co.uk/). "Don't Cha'" was originally released last December (2004) by Tori Alamaze (I really prefer her version to the Pussy Cat Dolls), it didn't go over so well, and so the Pussy Cat Dolls released it again a few months later. Yes, it was a #1 single in several countries, but nothing compared to "Wannabe".

So fair enough some people have drawn conclusions, but I feel that it's to undermine the success of the Spice Girls. In the course of 2 years, they sold 40 million albums… and that speaks volumes. It seems that the British media (not totally, but in general) likes to undermine, as much as possible, the Spice Girls.

It’s like recently I read that Girls Aloud had matched the Spice Girls string of Top 10 singles. That’s fine and dandy, but that’s only in the UK. Don’t get me wrong, I am quite the fan of Girls Aloud, but it’s like comparing Justin Timberlake to Michael Jackson or Kelly Clarkson to Mariah Carey. I am not basing any of the artists, but The Spice Girls, Michael Jackson and Mariah Carey are clearly in a league of their own.

Yes, I can understand some of the comparisons to the Spice Girls though. They are female... they sing... and yup, that's about it.

-- Anders

[Outroductive]

I nearly had a heart attack when I read this song was #1. Disgraceful.

[leopardo1973]

It seems in the Solo Spice era there has been a major media backlash and tends to be less appreciation of what an amazing group they actually were. But the way I look at it is, every new girl group that comes along and has some success gets touted as the new Spice Girls, so that goes to show that they are still the benchmark.

[richguy55]

I saw StickWitU last night for the first time whilst treadmilling at the gym. Its really nothing special when compared to the Spice Girls. Lets hope the Pussycat Dolls (what a dumbass name) burn out here soon and retreat back over the pond.

[blu]

Should the Pussycat Dolls and Girls Aloud really be compared with The Spice Girls? We should accept that there'll be no-one esle like them and not put so much high expectations on new girl groups.

The music industry has also changed alot from the '90's and there's the downloads now. We should feel proud that an actual pop song has made it to number one rather that an indie group that no-one has heard of.

[xolondon]

Pussycat Dolls started as burlesque, not music. They just added a singer and bought some songs. I suppose not that different from the Spice Girls, but the Spice Girls actually had personalities and brains and were built on that, much less so than their titties.

[andersneilsen]

I agree with you on that. The Spice Girls were their personalities, not necessarly their voices, although they worked well together.

As for every new girl group being touted as the "next Spice Girls", I hadn't thought of them as a benchmark, but you are right, there are a lot of things that have come since the Spice Girls, that I beleive to be a direct result of their influence.

Call me crazy, but I honestly think that the first rounds of Pop Stars were very much trying to capture what the Spice Girls had done. If anyone in here is from Canada, I am thinking "Sugar Jones", they even looked a bit like them. But maybe that's just me thinking that now.

In any case, glad to see other people agree.

-- Anders

[andersneilsen]

xolondon said:

Pussycat Dolls started as burlesque, not music. They just added a singer and bought some songs. I suppose not that different from the Spice Girls, but the Spice Girls actually had personalities and brains and were built on that, much less so than their titties.

If I am not mistaken, the Spice Girls also had a hand in writing their songs. How much, I am not sure, but it's one up on the Pussy Cat Dolls. In my opinion anyways.

It's a shame that their solo work has fizzled. To be honest with you, I just picked up "Beautiful Intentions" and I am very impressed by Melanie's latest effort. Shame more people don't agree.

-- Anders

[Jon]

This is really going off the topic, but Melanie C's "Beautiful Intentions" is an underrated gem. And one that you appreciation ten times more after seeing it live.

[azura]

andersneilsen said:

They are female..

That's debatable as far as the Pussycat Dolls are concerned.

I agree the 'new Spice Girls' tag is something that will be applied to any new girl group. It's how the music industry works- you compare them to am established success so the fans of that will check them out.

I was hoping the Pussycat Dolls would be one-hit-wonders, but sadly looks like they're here to stay. For a while anyway. I can't see them carrying on into their 50s, which means they'll definitely be gone by 2008.

[Kirkland]

The situation is about to get much worse but I can't tell you why until Sunday. Also, the lead singer reminds me of Ting Tong from Little Britain, except more vile.


Here is a link to cast a very special vote:

popjustice2.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=qanda&action=display&thread=1133875183&page=1


I'd like to know what PopJustice really felt about The Dolls.

[splitchick59]

The British public aren't any worse than the American public - this garbage is currently #2 in the US:

www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2681287

I'll take "Stickwitu" and whatever Oasis song a million times over.

[Kirkland]

Why is the US making us suffer like this? What have we ever done to them?









(Do NOT mention BBMak to me or I'll kill you.)

[andersneilsen]

kirkland: S Club 7 *tease*

Seriously though, I don't forsee Pussy Cat Dolls being around for that long. They have done well thus far, but I have the impression that they aren't going to be a major force.

Jon: Agreed, I just picked up the album (well, more like was forced to buy it) but I am glad I did! It's a brilliant album!

-- Anders

[calvinsteps]

They should all overthrow the lead singer, i'm sure the red head could have her in a fight.