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Post by The Hatherley Revolution on Jan 24, 2004 21:03:28 GMT -5
Ruled, basically. Except "The Menace", which was a bit shit especially after we had to wait about five years for it.
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Post by miamicounting on Jan 24, 2004 21:16:59 GMT -5
I don't think The Menace is too bad, it suffers only from the weight of expectation and having to follow one of the greatest debuts of all time.
The BBC sessions album is, perhaps strangely, their most complete work in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2004 8:46:54 GMT -5
The BBC sessions album is, perhaps strangely, their most complete work in my opinion. Absolutely. Contains all their various members wandering in and out of the band, and the rather brilliant In the City. It's such a shame they didn't release Bitch Don't Work properly - it's genius. I was listening to it t'other day.
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Post by Outroductive on Jul 11, 2005 5:31:18 GMT -5
Sorry to drag this back up, but I just have to say that "Mad Dog God Dam" is a lost classic. Am I alone in loving this song? I think it's possibly Elastica's best song. It's not typically melodic but there's something about it.
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Post by mumbojumbo on Jul 11, 2005 6:08:35 GMT -5
The Menace was pish.
2:1 still makes me wish i could play bass
*bowWOOOOOO* *bowWOOOOOO*
also,Justine was the fittest of all the Britpop girls (Louise Wener,Sonya Madden,even her bandmate Donna Matthews)
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Post by Outroductive on Jul 11, 2005 6:56:02 GMT -5
also,Justine was the fittest of all the Britpop girls (Louise Wener,Sonya Madden,even her bandmate Donna Matthews) I think Marijne van der Vlugt from Salad took that title. Also, "2:1" is one of the few Elastica songs I hate.
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Post by mumbojumbo on Jul 11, 2005 8:25:33 GMT -5
oooh,id forgotten about Salad.possibly because they were not very good i was listening to Cud yesterday.go me!
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Post by mumbojumbo on Jul 11, 2005 14:13:44 GMT -5
also,Lauren Laverne,wankage
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2005 4:49:09 GMT -5
2:1 is bollockingly easy to play. It's the bottom string on the bass, slide from fret 4 to fret 9. Over and over again.
Mad Dog God Dam is indeed a great moment in their lexicon - minus its rather confusing video. BUT the line "Don't want you on your back, I just got on my feet" is genius.
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Post by Trixie on Jul 12, 2005 6:35:56 GMT -5
I missed Elastica in their time, and have only recently been listening to stuff through hearing them in clubs etc.
Waking Up and Connection are fantastic, but I need to get an album I think.
Miami Counting: I may take your receommendation and get the bbc sessions album.
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Post by materialgirl1982 on Jul 12, 2005 8:31:55 GMT -5
Yes Elastica's debut was great, but unfortunately 'The Menace' was nowhere near as good. As said above, it didn't help that we had all been waiting for 5 years for it! Incase anyone's interested, Justine has since hosted a show on BBC3, 'Dream Spaces' ( www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/dreamspaces/about_the_show.shtml ). I have never seen the show but heard about her involvement recently.
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Post by Outroductive on Jul 12, 2005 9:09:05 GMT -5
I've never seen the "Mad Dog" video, what's it like? The "Radio 1 Sessions" CD is surprisingly brilliant. You should get it for "I Want You" alone, which appears on the Japanese edition of "The Menace" I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2005 9:54:38 GMT -5
The Mad Dog video is a bunch of extremely "street" kids all breakdancing in a Ghetto-looking basketball court, in black and white. That's all they do, for 3 minutes. Just breakdance.
The Japanese version of 'The Menace' had tracks called 'You're OK' and 'Faking' - they're sadly both eminently missable. By the time 'The Menace' was released, Justine hated 'I Want You' because it reminded her of her crack-addled days, or something, and also because - although it's fucking mighty - the lyrics are a trifle naff.
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Post by marwood on Jul 12, 2005 10:06:59 GMT -5
I have all of the 7" limited edition singles and two orginal t-shirts. Big Fan....shame they didn't go big...drugs fucked them over....Blagged an interview once and they were smoking H in the dressing room...
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Post by Outroductive on Jul 13, 2005 3:10:26 GMT -5
Thanks, Mr. Marzipan. I almost purchased the "Mad Dog" single just to see the video, good job I didn't, as it sounds terrible.
I'm interested to hear "You're OK" (rings a bell now), and "Faking". When "The Menace" was good, it was really good. "Image Change" and "KB" are pointless though. I love the robotic-like beeps in "I Want You".
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Post by ninefootjoe on Jul 13, 2005 14:16:07 GMT -5
I managed to get Faking and You're OK off of Audioscrobbler....that is going back a bit. Faking was recorded in someone's bedroom and really doesn't sound like anything other than a song that was recorded in a bedroom. You're OK was a trashy throwaway....oh what am I saying, not listened to either of them in years. Gonna have to dig them out now.
'Elastica' was class, as was 'BBC Sessions'. 'The Menace' never stood a chance, all the expectation built up over 5 years, what was going to please everyone?
On a sort of related topic, are Klang any good?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2005 4:37:28 GMT -5
Klang have (had?) the possibility of not sucking - their debut EP was pretty great but totally unavailable and on fucking vinyl, and now they keep on doing nauseating concept stuff. Their full-length album, which had a title that I have forgotten, was very low-fi and soft, acoustic guitars etc, and it sounded like the drums were just someone tapping a tabletop. There is stuff to download on their website that sounds much better.
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Post by klee on Jul 14, 2005 6:48:40 GMT -5
Isn't Justin (the drummer) teaching drums now. I'm sure I heard him talking about it on 6Music a month or two ago.
Elastica were great. Seeing Connection performed on Top Of The Pops was one of my formative teenage pop memories. It was just a shame they were so frigging lazy - even Elastica, great as it is, was basically cobbled together from demos, singles and EPs that other more prodictive bands would have left out in favour of new material.
Waking Up says it all, really.
At least we have Justine to thank for M.I.A.
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Post by richie on Jul 15, 2005 10:22:22 GMT -5
At least we have Justine to thank for M.I.A. Really? What's the story?
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Post by klee on Jul 15, 2005 10:57:58 GMT -5
M.I.A. was originally a video artist. She was working on a documentary or something with Justine (who's now a film-maker of sorts) and for some reason got left alone by her with a some music recording equipment. She messed around with it a bit, and when Justine came back played what she'd come up with to her. Justine was completely blown away by what she heard and encouraged her to become a musician - and M.I.A. wa born.
It's a great story.
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Post by letigre on Jul 15, 2005 19:03:48 GMT -5
Part of me wishes '..Menace' hadn't been released, there are a couple of good tracks on there ('Your Arse, My Place' being one) but they would have gone down in legend as being a band who released one fantastic record and then stopped. But then, isn't that a trend that we're seeing in today's increasingly high turnover music industry?
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Post by cassette tape on Aug 5, 2005 12:49:54 GMT -5
God, Elastica were fabulous.
I feel too lazy to quote people, but just to add:
- Klang were alright, they're great live but can't carry the sound onto recordings which is a shame. I filmed a handful of gigs which are a better listen than the album.
- Justine discovered MIA's work from St.Martin's College, and got her to produce the artwork for The Menace. She took MIA on tour with the band in America and their support act, Peaches, introduced her to the Roland MC-505. Justine ended up writing Galang with her, but they later fell out when Justine wanted more credit on her album than MIA was wiling to acknowledge.
- If you like "I Want You" you should search for "The Other Side". It's from the same Radio 1 session as "I Want You" and sounds just as great. No idea why it never made it onto the compilation. Everything from that era was great actually, I got played so many demos and I wondered why none of them ever surfaced.
- Justin is indeed a drumming tutor, in Devon. He lives in Barnstaple with Mew the keyboard player, his wife.
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Post by materialgirl1982 on Aug 8, 2005 18:12:49 GMT -5
- Justin is indeed a drumming tutor, in Devon. He lives in Barnstaple with Mew the keyboard player, his wife. Interesting. Am i right in thinking he used to go out with Donna Matthews? Bit like Louise Wener, dumping one band member then dating another!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2005 10:56:07 GMT -5
He and Donna were going out and taking a lot of smack. Then they had a big fight and Donna had to perform 'Connection' on TOTP in sunglasses to hide her black eye. Now he and Mew live on a farm and are all organic.
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Post by materialgirl1982 on Aug 11, 2005 17:56:04 GMT -5
He and Donna were going out and taking a lot of smack. Then they had a big fight and Donna had to perform 'Connection' on TOTP in sunglasses to hide her black eye. Now he and Mew live on a farm and are all organic. Blimey Charlie! It's all happening in Elastica world eh!
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