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Post by Born Under A Bad Song on May 11, 2005 5:14:53 GMT -5
I thought I liked the The Faint but I've since realised that although it sounded pretty good to me at first, 'Wet From Birth' isn't very good. Some of the lyrics are embarrassing to listen too and there are no stand out tracks.
Am I wrong? If I am right, can anyone recommend a band that treads similar ground but have a bit more substance to them?
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Post by klee on May 11, 2005 6:04:36 GMT -5
Yes, Depeche Mode.
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Post by Born Under A Bad Song on May 11, 2005 7:34:47 GMT -5
Where would you recommed I start with Depeche Mode? One of the two singles collections? The remixes? An early or more recent album?
On the basis of amazon reviews, I'm going for Violator.
Anyone else got any ideas for me?
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Post by klee on May 11, 2005 8:10:17 GMT -5
Violator is ace, as is Songs of Faith and Devotion and Exciter.
Their very early stuff was mostly written by Vince Clarke (of Yazoo and Erasure fame) and is very different from the later, much darker stuff which I think you'd probably like a good deal more.
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Post by nnnumb on May 12, 2005 9:40:36 GMT -5
Covenant are very good (and Swedish too), although on the downside they can get a little 'Trancey' occasionally.
I'm a little mystified as to why 'Wet From Birth' has been so poorly received, as in my opinion, it's an excellent album, full of potential hit singles. And they very thoughtfully re-wrote B-Movie's 'Remembrance Day' for them, which is nice.
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Post by lockedintheattic on May 12, 2005 9:54:03 GMT -5
so where's best to start with Covenant then? (and consider that I'm someone for whom 'Trancey' sounds appealing rather than offputting!)
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Post by nnnumb on May 12, 2005 10:06:47 GMT -5
so where's best to start with Covenant then? (and consider that I'm someone for whom 'Trancey' sounds appealing rather than offputting!) I'd recommend you go for their last album ('Northern Light') first, or failing that 'United States Of Mind'. If you want to try before you buy, their website is www.covenant.se.
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Post by beNcooKe on May 13, 2005 14:44:39 GMT -5
With depeche mode there's a very distinct sound change after Some Great Reward because of the Vince Clark departure.
I think violator is one of the best albums I own and one of the best put tofether, brilliant production and agreat set of songs which cover some good themes, thats probably a good starting point then try something like Black celebration or a singles collection.
Songs of faith... I like ok but its a very very different sound to much of their other stuff with the later album Ultra being as I see it a bridge between the electronic DM and the songs of Faith DM.
Exciter I like as it had the same producer as Bjork used on songs like her Hunter but I dont think it is a particularly classic DM album.
Theres my two cents ha ha
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Post by nnnumb on May 13, 2005 17:48:05 GMT -5
With depeche mode there's a very distinct sound change after Some Great Reward because of the Vince Clark departure. He, ahem, left after 'Speak & Spell' (their first album). 'Some Great Reward' was their fourth album. There, I've let my inner nerd out again. Thanks.
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Post by beNcooKe on May 14, 2005 6:05:28 GMT -5
I know this, i think i worded that badly and I realised I actually totally forgot about construction time again. Such a bad pundit today.
Construction and Some Great reward are like transitional albums as I see them with the new sound fully crafted by the time they do Black Celebration. The texture on the tracks for me sound a bit too separated from each other and theres nothing much holding them together. Does that make sense?! Love tracks like lie to me and something to do.
I find Construction Time hard to listen to with the exception of two minute warning and everything counts.
I bought some great reward when I first got into DM (after aquiring ultra by accident) while I was working in Germany for a few weeks, bit cold and lonely and a few strange things happened on the trip so I associate SGR with that and travelling abroad.
I re-listened to speak and spell and a broken frame this morning, there is a very distinct change from where Mr Clark leaves and takes his sound with him to start off Yazoo.
So anyway I think from SGR/Black celebration would be a good place to start.
Have you got 101 nnnumb? I love the version of a question of time on there.
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Post by nnnumb on May 14, 2005 17:45:06 GMT -5
So anyway I think from SGR/Black celebration would be a good place to start. Have you got 101 nnnumb? I love the version of a question of time on there. beN I have indeed got '101', and although I generally hate live albums, the version of 'A Question Of Time' on there I rseem to remember being quite fantastic. Talking about DM always makes me feel so old though, as I can remember 'New Life' being released quite clearly. They're pretty much year zero musically for me, as that's where my love of electro comes from - well, DM & The Human League.
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Post by beNcooKe on May 15, 2005 4:12:45 GMT -5
well i found them later in their career but it was grouops likeDM, the league and the pet shop boys I remember seeing that made me want to get into using synthesisers and pretentious looking black boxes ha ha
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Post by bumsfallera on May 15, 2005 4:14:12 GMT -5
[quote author=nnnumb Talking about DM always makes me feel so old though, as I can remember 'New Life' being released quite clearly. They're pretty much year zero musically for me, as that's where my love of electro comes from - well, DM & The Human League.[/quote]
same for me! And i have to say that my favourite DM album is "Some great reward", , contrary to popular opinion, . Every song is great, an it contains 'leave in silence" which is my fave DM song.
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Post by beNcooKe on May 15, 2005 4:28:59 GMT -5
dont mean to be the geek but leave in silence is on a broken frame. which is a great album ha ha love thtat song.
some great reward to me sounds uncomfortable
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Post by yorkpete on Oct 29, 2005 12:31:18 GMT -5
Born Under A Bad Song, how can I put this - yes! You're wrong! Honestly.
It's an utterly brilliant record, from the strings of Southern Belles in London Sing, which is actually so good I have to listen to it twice every time I listen to the album and it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end, to the stacatto bass of Erection - a song which sounds exactly like it's subject has mildly amusing lyrics to boot, to the punchy attitude of Desperate Guys.. Lots of people seem to think that Danse Macabre or another of their albums is better like nnnumb says but I'm also entirely mystified as to why this is.
It's all clever, well produced stuff with good lyrics and they really know how to carry a tune.
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Post by Born Under A Bad Song on Oct 31, 2005 5:33:06 GMT -5
I've been going off them and getting back into them repeatedly for ages now. I used to feel the same for bis, somedays I'd love them, some days I'd hate them.
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