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Post by WittyName on Apr 19, 2006 3:13:44 GMT -5
On last night's show, there was a bit where Nadine was on the phone to the Radio 1 chart show, and Tim Westwood (who was co presenting for some reason) said something along the lines of "This is your FOURTH single off a CLASSIC ALBUM!", which was a bit odd.
I'd always presumed he'd be more of a "What Will The Neighbours Say?" fan.
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Post by Maureen on Apr 19, 2006 4:12:32 GMT -5
Perhaps he meant that no. 6 was a very respectable position for a fourth release. Which it is.
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Post by Snuff on Apr 19, 2006 4:23:42 GMT -5
You just can't help but want to throw a stapler at all the record company people.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 19, 2006 5:12:05 GMT -5
Even Peter Loraine?
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Post by dropped on Apr 19, 2006 11:48:14 GMT -5
Peter Loraine is gorgeous.
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Post by konichiwaboy on Apr 19, 2006 12:18:09 GMT -5
How much did the 3rd album sell?
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Post by konichiwaboy on Apr 19, 2006 12:28:39 GMT -5
They seriously have weight/weight issues. 96% of the recent episode concerned their appearance. That was actually quite worrying. I suppose the pressure of the industry has made them all really sensitive but that was really pushing the old "needs-urgent-therapy" buttons. Love the show but the were expressing views surrounding their bodies near to eating disorder territory.
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Post by doggie on Apr 19, 2006 13:01:21 GMT -5
They seriously have weight/weight issues. 96% of the recent episode concerned their appearance. That was actually quite worrying. I suppose the pressure of the industry has made them all really sensitive but that was really pushing the old "needs-urgent-therapy" buttons. Love the show but the were expressing views surrounding their bodies near to eating disorder territory. Surely it's pretty normal to be concerned about how they look when the documentary shows them appearing on television and doing photo shoots. Did you expect them to sit around discussing Tolstoy?
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Post by Fax Mactor on Apr 19, 2006 14:18:17 GMT -5
Clearly Girls Aloud are 5 beautiful young women who appear to be perfect. I know everybody has their insecurities but the faux-modesty from the likes of Kimberley & Cheryl really pisses me off. If they want ugly. I'll show them ugly.
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Post by butterflyboy on Apr 19, 2006 15:14:33 GMT -5
I think when you enter the fame bubble you can become swept away wiht it and its pretty clear that the girls have to some extent. Nadine saying that they looked so big in early photos-they didnt they just look much more slim now! And doesnt Cheryl realise that Jordan's body is so "perfect" becuase of the surgeons knife. Also we all know this but Calam Best is a knob. I also heard a tiny clip of a song i hadnt thought id heard before
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Post by 0bscene on Apr 19, 2006 15:58:37 GMT -5
Sarah is quite the stroppy one, eh? The nail in the coffin for me was when she was sitting at the front of the car with her legs on the dashboard and the voiceover dude goes '...and Sarah doesn't want to be filmed.'
The previews for next week is the first time I've heard Nadine swear, I think.
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Post by Snuff on Apr 19, 2006 16:39:21 GMT -5
Maybe not him. But TV promotions woman and manager woman could all do with a heavy duty stapler between the eyes. "Hopefully the supposed fan base of 3 year old girls will go in to town with mum and dad and buy the singe" Geeez woman! The PopJustice message board collective are more aware of what Girls Aloud are about than you are.
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Post by Greg on Apr 20, 2006 4:28:38 GMT -5
"Hopefully the supposed fan base of 3 year old girls will go in to town with mum and dad and buy the singe" Geeez woman! The PopJustice message board collective are more aware of what Girls Aloud are about than you are. I don't think that's fair. It was in the context of their appearance. They were on Holly & Steven's Shit Shock Horror or whatever it's called, so obviously they aren't appearing on that to appeal to the gays, twenty-somethings or students (though I don't know - maybe the dads?). The idea is simple. Kid watches TV on Saturday morning, sees Girls Aloud, likes Girls Aloud song, is only thinking about Girls Aloud song, goes to ASDA with mom, gets mom to buy Girls Aloud single. Plus, the more young girls we can get to want to be Girls Aloud when they grow up the better surely? I mean, we could well reap the benefits in 10-15 years time or something. I understand that young girls are perhaps not the key audience for Girls Aloud, who are little bit more adult. But it was the teenyboppers who bought Westlife, Blazin' Squad etc by the shit load. It may not be the audience you'd like them to be targetted at, but at the end of the day, the record company want to sell as many singles as possible. So to appeal to this market it's either appear on the Shit Shock Horror and arse around with custard pies and coke and all that shite to appear fun or else compromise their sound for something more insulting simple fun! Your choice.
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Post by konichiwaboy on Apr 20, 2006 7:00:25 GMT -5
They seriously have weight/weight issues. 96% of the recent episode concerned their appearance. That was actually quite worrying. I suppose the pressure of the industry has made them all really sensitive but that was really pushing the old "needs-urgent-therapy" buttons. Love the show but the were expressing views surrounding their bodies near to eating disorder territory. Surely it's pretty normal to be concerned about how they look when the documentary shows them appearing on television and doing photo shoots. Did you expect them to sit around discussing Tolstoy? Maybe not Tolstoy but Foucault certainly! All i kept on thinking was when those girls are older they are so gonna regret all the "me me me" talk because they are the most stunning girls on the popscene.I dont really take your "photo shoots" justification as the podcasts(DIY) done by Clea behind the scenes at their promo moments are not filled with selfdoubt but quite insane moments re-enacting TittyBangBang and shaking the body(you have to see it to understand it). They certainly didnt spend that much time on 'how fat am i' discussion. Then again maybe there isnt as much pressure in that band nor are they that much in the public eye. Or quite simply when you have 1 very skinny girl saying how fat she is it has a ripple effect. Eating disorders sadly come in packs. I even think Cheryl said "oh no dont you start...." when Nicola went OTT over the video appearance. Anyway: a very good insight to the one of the last poptastic bands in the UK.
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Post by WittyName on Apr 20, 2006 9:09:16 GMT -5
You can't seriously compare Clea with the Aloud can you?
There has been a lot of coverage in the papers over where the England team are staying for thie World Cup this summer, and absolutely none about where Accrington Stanley will stay when they go on away trips next season.
In the same way, there have been lots of stories about Girls Aloud being too fat (around the time of their first album), they are constantly in the papers and those boorish "100 sexiset" lists you get in FHM. Their looks are part of their image, whether you or I or even they like it or not. One photo of them looking slightly less than perfect will probably get some sort of media coverage, most photographers would walk past Clea in the street.
I think Cheryl's "don't you fookin' start" to Nicola was her saying "You're talking shit if you think you're ugly". They were all worried about their own appearance, but each one thought the rest looked great. They are victims of this "everyone needs to be flawless" culture, not a cause.
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Post by dropped on Apr 20, 2006 11:28:50 GMT -5
The next episode will be following them in Australia, but the one after is supposedly more Kimba- centric, with her visiting her b/f at work and so on.
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Post by dropped on Apr 20, 2006 11:30:10 GMT -5
You just can't help but want to throw a stapler at all the record company people. I wouldn't mind STapling" Rachel Cook with a certain part of my anatomy. She's gorgeous.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 20, 2006 11:33:27 GMT -5
So that's Kimberley visiting USC then... can't believe Justin's had to resort to working there.
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Post by dropped on Apr 20, 2006 11:53:31 GMT -5
What's wrong with USC? Anyways, he'll only be their until his music career gets back on track.
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Post by octoberrust on Apr 20, 2006 14:02:02 GMT -5
To be fair, he was the person in the first episode saying that releasing a fourth single from an album as sensational as Chemistry, was 'a gamble' It's been said many times before, but the whole Chemistry 'campaign' has probably been one of the most frustrating pop things EVAH.
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Post by MoondialSlater on Apr 20, 2006 19:05:59 GMT -5
I think Cheryl's "don't you fookin' start" to Nicola was her saying "You're talking shit if you think you're ugly". Best not tell her about coming 4th in the Kerrang ugliest Celebrities poll then.
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Post by andreipj on Apr 21, 2006 3:11:14 GMT -5
These record company execs are all pretty annoying on the show especially the younger woman, who made the comment about 3-year olds - they only seem to apply some age-old marketing "tricks" and think they're very clever when doing that and then say aww & smile at the girls during the playback of the video, thinking the girls are such dumbfucks who constantly need nurturing and kind people around them, cos otherwise the fragile them may just crack up and start crying. And at least now we know who's the mastermind behind the bragging lines of pointless statistics like 'the only girlband ever to have 12 straight top 10 hits'. WHY?
For fuck's sake if their music is so special why can't the marketing department pull something special out of the bag?
and where was the 'whos looking like a dickhead now?' bit that was supposed to be in this episode. missed it, me!
i liked the first episode better - more Cheryl and less justification from rubbish no-ones with crap jokes.
And Nicola is a sweetheart! And their caretakers really treat them like a quintet of morons! I hope they will get a new managing team once they switch to Fascination
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 21, 2006 3:29:25 GMT -5
The dickhead bit is in next week's episode I think.
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Post by hmmmmm on Apr 21, 2006 12:50:43 GMT -5
once they switch to Fascination WHAT.
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Post by onlinehimbo on Apr 21, 2006 16:17:51 GMT -5
once they switch to Fascination WHAT. BITCH!! *slap* Sorry, came over all Footballers' Wives there. Fascination is a new division of Polydor purely for pop artists. There's more on it around PJ somewhere. Regarding this series, I'm loving it so far. It's a great insight into how the pop world works and the brains behind it. Both episodes thus far have made for riveting viewing methinks.
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Post by allanc on Apr 22, 2006 4:18:11 GMT -5
I actually love whoever got this series to the air. It's great!
I loved the bit when Jordan came in to visit them and Cheryl was like "she looks great...her legs are amazin...fuckin cow."
Seriously, my love for the Aloud has grown out of control. Let's hope there's a DVD of this:D
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Post by beautifuldisaster on Apr 22, 2006 12:09:13 GMT -5
I feel they should release a DVD - even better - relive the show anytime you want.
Episode 3 is going to be a good one by the looks of things: when Cheryl's with the kangaroo and she quite simply asks: "What would it do if i kissed it? Bite me face off?"
Pure Cheryl comedy.
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Post by 0bscene on Apr 23, 2006 0:15:46 GMT -5
Am I mistaken or does there seem to be one girl who gets the most focus in each episode? The first one belonged to Cheryl, last week's was Sarah's, by the looks of things next week's will be Nadine-heavy, and then there is that Kim-centric episode that's in 2 weeks. Is it just coincidence or is it part of the program layout?
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 23, 2006 6:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Nicola gets Episode 5, and then it's all of them equally in the last episode.
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Post by bichard on Apr 24, 2006 11:11:22 GMT -5
I think Cheryl's "don't you fookin' start" to Nicola was her saying "You're talking shit if you think you're ugly". Best not tell her about coming 4th in the Kerrang ugliest Celebrities poll then. Where do people get this idea that Nicola is ugly? She may not be quite as stunning as the rest of the girls (although I personally think she is better looking than Kimberley - I've never understood what all the fuss is about there) but she is undeniably a very pretty girl. And how on Earth Kerrang readers can say she is unattractive when you consider some of the ugly cunts who frequent that magazine's cover is beyond me!!!
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