|
Post by cowgirstyle on Sept 21, 2003 4:35:41 GMT -5
i voted for suzanne sooooooooo many times, i can't believe she missed out by such a small percentage. i admit that my intitial attraction to her was due to her yellow earrings, but then i discovered the rest. oh btw, does anyone phone vote? i usually text, but as i was mugged on friday and have no mobile, i had to do it the old fashioned way. anyway, i just gotta say it is very very scary being unexpectedly shouted at by ant mcpartlin.
|
|
|
Post by Tim on Sept 21, 2003 5:28:52 GMT -5
She is telling girls that they just need to be them. I think she makes a nice change from all the size 2 girls we see on tv. Despite the fact that anorexia barely makes a blip on the 'premature reasons for dying' list and has never been proven to be connected to images in the media since it is an illness based on a need for personal control and, rather than just wanting to be thin, the mind genuinely believes the body to be fat. Whereas, conditions directly caused by over eating and poor diet (which Michelle has admitted is the cause of her size) is the largest killer in the Western world. So how much of a good signal is it to send out to people that it is okay? "Mum, should I stop eating chips and cake and start taking regular excericise?" "No need dear, you've got a lovely singing voice."
|
|
|
Post by Poptastic! on Sept 21, 2003 8:01:36 GMT -5
I agree with Jen - the winner will not be any of the people put through in these weeks. It will be a wildcard contestant. Darius, David Sneddon, Sinead Quinn, Nicola and Kimberley GA and Clay Aitken did well for the same reason. It's all about the 'underdog' or 'dark horse'. Meaning that my fave so far, Adam (he did knee bends!!) is still in with with a chance. But not a very big one I don't think he'll be in wildcard week, but if he is he needs a great song and some kind of novelty, then he could do it. I wonder if they might end up bringing back people from the previous rounds like they did on AI2 (one being Carmen)? Jessica
|
|
Hula
Punter
Posts: 716
|
Post by Hula on Sept 21, 2003 8:20:48 GMT -5
I seem to be one of the few people who actually really liked Kirsty on here. She wasn't right singing a ballad and dressing like that (none of the girls were) but backstage she seemed really nice and I could actually see her being a popstar, which can't be said for any of the others we've seen so far, except maybe for Susanne. Still, if Susanne gets through in the wildcard week she's have to sort her nerves out, because with them she's awful. Without them I think she'd be great though.
As for Fame Academy, I was so pleased that James went, he's truly dire. Now I just want Peter to go and for Alistair not to win, although he might well unfortunately. He's such a David Sneddon!
|
|
MoondialSlater
Punter
Why ain't you looking now you BASTARDS.
Posts: 522
|
Post by MoondialSlater on Sept 21, 2003 8:33:35 GMT -5
I agree with Jen - the winner will not be any of the people put through in these weeks. It will be a wildcard contestant. Darius, David Sneddon, Sinead Quinn, Nicola and Kimberley GA and Clay Aitken did well for the same reason. It's all about the 'underdog' or 'dark horse'. I don't really agree that wildcards get through due to being an "underdog". Darius did get through eventually and only lost to Rik Waller in the heats because Rik was fat and there was a campaign to "Vote for the fat bloke". Darius was seen as a dark horse because of his behaviour on Popstars and his re-invention and re-embracement by the public rather than being given another chance. Sinead was never really a wildcard re-entry and was voted in by the public on the first show. David came second to Sinead so it wasn't like he didn't have some support and whilst at the Academy did well in songwriting which the public could see (by which I mean he actually wrote songs, I didn't say they were fantastic). The others were just chosen by the programme makers as interesting personalities which would make the show worth watching and they'd teach them how to sing later on (as seen in their first show performance which was really bad). Sinead and David were more embraced by the public because the public had already seen what they could do. Kim got put in because Hazel was a couple of days to old and if anything that would lose her votes since it seemed a bit unfair. And as we've seen by her god-awful attempts to get in Pop Idol the swapping of the Nicola's was frankly just common sense. But again Nicola could sing well. Not so sure about Kim but lets not forget she was up against "Who am I" Lynsey, "I deserve to be here in my eyes only" Emma, "Nice voice shame about the personality" Chloe (though as we saw when they were in the final four Kim didn't have that many votes) and Aimee though I'm not really sure where her support went, especially with who she lost to. And there's always going to be suspicions over how they all managed to beat Javine. The only thing wildcards do is allow people who liked them but couldn't be bothered to vote for them the first time round get to the phones so it doesn't happen again.
|
|
|
Post by Poptastic! on Sept 21, 2003 9:00:58 GMT -5
I do know why those people got in Moondial, I was just pointing out the pattern of people who weren't in the original line-up doing well. They get a bit of extra coverage, and another chance to pick up voters on a wildcard show. We shall see anyway - it depends who's on wildcard week and what the standard is like in the proper ten.
Jessica
|
|
MoondialSlater
Punter
Why ain't you looking now you BASTARDS.
Posts: 522
|
Post by MoondialSlater on Sept 21, 2003 10:02:40 GMT -5
We shall see anyway - it depends who's on wildcard week and what the standard is like in the proper ten. I think in this case of wildcards it'll also depend on who the judges choose as well. If they choose one the public like anway then fine but if they choose one just because they think it'll bring them press coverage (back to lapdancer Rebecca again) then I can see something of a backlash from those whose favourite artist didn't get through seeing them as taking up their place.
|
|
|
Post by Smudge on Sept 21, 2003 10:06:22 GMT -5
I think she makes a nice change from all the size 2 girls we see on tv. Really? Because I would much rather be a size 2 than a size 22. I don't know if that sounds horrible, but it's the truth.
|
|
MoondialSlater
Punter
Why ain't you looking now you BASTARDS.
Posts: 522
|
Post by MoondialSlater on Sept 21, 2003 10:09:51 GMT -5
The problem Michelle's got also is that she's meant to be a role model for larger women but has already lost two and a half stone between the final 50 from 100 auditions and her getting through to the final 10 which dents her role model-ish ness somewhat.
Though she might have been planning on losing the weight anyway I think it's more likely were it not for Pop Idol she wouldn't have done.
|
|
|
Post by jamie on Sept 21, 2003 10:13:36 GMT -5
The problem Michelle's got also is that she's meant to be a role model for larger women but has already lost two and a half stone between the final 50 from 100 auditions and her getting through to the final 10 which dents her role model-ish ness somewhat. Though she might have been planning on losing the weight anyway I think it's more likely were it not for Pop Idol she wouldn't have done. What she said was that it gave her the motivation to lose the 2 and a half stone but she doesn't want to lose any more. It doesn't dent her opportunity to be a role model at all, she is still larger than almost all of the popstars we currently have. And she is happy how she is.
|
|
|
Post by Kittens-In-A-Hoodie on Sept 21, 2003 10:16:31 GMT -5
The problem Michelle's got also is that she's meant to be a role model for larger women but has already lost two and a half stone between the final 50 from 100 auditions and her getting through to the final 10 which dents her role model-ish ness somewhat. Though she might have been planning on losing the weight anyway I think it's more likely were it not for Pop Idol she wouldn't have done. I think she said something along these lines herself did she not? On the one hand she's been able to use the whole Pop Idol thing as a spur to loose weight, which she's always wanted to do... but now she finds that her USP is the size thing... of course she could always combine the two and let the audience watch her ever slimmer figure appear on stage each week...a whole new vote-winning angle.
|
|
MoondialSlater
Punter
Why ain't you looking now you BASTARDS.
Posts: 522
|
Post by MoondialSlater on Sept 21, 2003 10:17:53 GMT -5
What she said was that it gave her the motivation to lose the 2 and a half stone but she doesn't want to lose any more. It doesn't dent her opportunity to be a role model at all, she is still larger than almost all of the popstars we currently have. And she is happy how she is. But not all larger people have that motivation of being in a show and possibly getting a million pound music contract at the end of it. Losing that much weight that quickly is a bit worrying anyway. Kate Thornton told her to be careful about what she's doing. EDIT- re: Poptastic's comments below I agree Michelle should go far because she's got a good voice, never mind the weight.
|
|
|
Post by Poptastic! on Sept 21, 2003 10:22:10 GMT -5
I don't think Michelle is amazing but she deserves her place in the final 12 just as much as the other 3 that are in so far, and she seems like a nice person which is important to me at least.
Jessica
|
|
Pheebs
Punter
Phoebe? Or her evil twin Ursula? Who shall I be today?
Posts: 479
|
Post by Pheebs on Sept 21, 2003 11:29:14 GMT -5
Sometimes people who are overweight need the motivation of seeing someone else who is losing weight - thus Michelle is still a good role model as she is showing the folk at home the benefits of losing weight.
|
|
Sazz
Punter
Ace
Dude he's amazing.
Posts: 88
|
Post by Sazz on Sept 21, 2003 13:13:20 GMT -5
Fingers crossed Jodie and Susanne will get a chance on the wildcard show. Susanne was brilliant in rehersals but nerves caused her to totally freak out on the night and Jodie sang really good despite having a ear and throat infection so i feel she would be amazing at 100%. I think both girls deserve another chance. Also i think that they are both quite unique as well, rather than just plain good singing voices they both had very different vocal tones as well both of which i really liked
|
|
Storm
Punter
Popjustice Almighty
Play
Posts: 1,163
|
Post by Storm on Sept 22, 2003 8:16:29 GMT -5
I think I'm gonna boycott PI. Is it me, or are the four people that have went through this year, just so BLAND?? Sure they can all carry a note, but none of them have the x factor that a Will, or even a Zoe, Hayley or Rosie have?? Both Jodie and Susanne should have went through on Saturday. Jodie gave the best performance of teh 2 heats so far, and Susanne has such a unique voice. Kirsty was ok, but bland. And Brian should never have got through-he sounded awful, isn't too easy on teh eye, and is impossibly bland. I hate the voting public.
|
|
|
Post by Smudge on Sept 22, 2003 8:20:22 GMT -5
I agree. The contestants are very dull. I did like Susanne originally, but I didn't like her performance on Saturday. It sounded like she couldn't breathe properly.
|
|
|
Post by Kittens-In-A-Hoodie on Sept 22, 2003 8:25:27 GMT -5
I do Like Chris...although he's got to tone things down and try to get more self-control, in all aspects of himself.
Michelle dosn't seem to me to have anything remarkable about her voice...indeed it's got quite a harsh tone to it.
Brian was unbearably bland...and not even very good looking. It was depressingly obvious that he'd go through though.
It's very unclear to me how Kirsty managed to get through on such a big vote. It is just because she's pretty, and fiesty? I thought this was a singing competition.
|
|
|
Post by dizzie on Sept 22, 2003 8:34:09 GMT -5
I agree completely. I’m beginning to think we were spoiled last year with the standard of the first contestants who got through – Gareth and Zoe. They oozed star quality and were deserving finalists. Now we have Michelle, who has a good (not great though) voice, who got though on a sympathy vote because of her size; Chris, who’s too weird for words and warbles his own tunes over whatever it is he’s singing; Brian the most boring Irishman ever – aren’t they supposed to be very charming and charismatic?; and Kirsty who’s dress JUST about covered her essential bits and I can’t even remember her singing.
Unfortunately, we’ve got Andy Scott-Lee, Keiron (big headed Scottish guy), and Tarik who are bound to get through based on their previous popularity and ‘entertainment value’. That leaves only 5 places to find the actually deserving winner of PI. Has anyone seen him/her? I thought Jodie was excellent and Adam really deserves another go to show what he could do with a more popular song.
I’m just glad I’ve got Alex (Fame Academy) to worship, seeing as she the only person who any talent on these so-called Talent Shows.
|
|